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Published Wednesday, April 15, 2009 in Local
Photo by Bob Fraley
About 200 people turned out at Newnan City Hall at noon Wednesday for the local tea party protesting government tax and spending policies. The crowd carried signs, sang patriotic songs and heard speakers talk about taxation and spending.
About 200 attend tax day rally on steps of Newnan City Hall
By Jeff Bishop
The Newnan Times-Herald
About 200 people showed up on the steps of Newnan City Hall Wednesday to protest government spending as part of the nationwide "tea party" movement inspired by a Feb. 19 on-air rant by CNBC correspondent Rick Santelli.
Participants hoisted signs proclaiming "End Corporate Welfare," "Stop Spending Our Money" and "Don't Tread on Me" as they cheered "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" and sang patriotic songs such as "God Bless America" and the "Star-Spangled Banner."
State Sen. Mitch Seabaugh (R-Sharpsburg) said he was pleased with the turnout as he addressed the crowd over a loudspeaker.
"If each one of us takes some initiative to reach out to people," said Seabaugh, "we will take back Congress, we will take back the presidency, we will take back this nation!"
He again cited the Mel Gibson film "The Patriot," as he did earlier in the week when members of the 48th Infantry Brigade left the Newnan Armory for Afghanistan. He said he was particularly moved by one scene that depicts a father nodding approvingly to his young son as he volunteers to "go fight for freedom."
The boy was "no more than a middle school student," Seabaugh said.
"We have forgotten what our founding fathers did -- the sacrifices they made to give us the opportunities we have now," he said.
Those founding fathers "believed in a Supreme Being, they believed in God, and they believed that God gave us the rights we have to govern ourselves. And what God giveth, no man can taketh away -- I don't care who's in the White House."
Some "tea party" participants underscored this sentiment when they shouted the "under God" portion of the "Pledge of Allegiance" at a particularly high volume during one part of the rally.
Rep. Billy Horne couldn't be at the demonstration, but he prepared a statement that was read by a representative wherein he announced he had introduced a resolution for Georgia to adopt the "fair tax" and another resolution, H.R. 492, that "claims Georgia sovereignty" under the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
"Federal government is too big and too intrusive," Horne said, and everyone should contact their representatives to let them know that the people expect them to "do less."
"We need to let Washington know we have had enough," Horne said.
John Stevenson hoisted a yellow flag featuring a rattlesnake that's familiar to history buffs as the Gadsden Flag, used during the American Revolution.
"They used this flag to lead the colonials to the Boston Tea Party, which was all about taxation without representation, so I thought it was very appropriate," said Stevenson.
He said he was miffed that "$850 billion in bailouts was rammed through Congress overnight without Congress having a chance to read it."
Connie Singleton carried a sign that said, "Born Free, Taxed to Death."
"We're just disgusted with the government right now," she said. "We feel like we're not being heard. We want to be part of a change, from the bottom up."
Tom Murray said he is "concerned about all the things Obama is doing." He said he was "really encouraged" by the turnout.
"I'm here because I want to get my country back," said George Tedder. "This is a Christian nation. Those are the principles on which this country is founded. And I am appalled at what is happening to our country."
The people at the rally represent the "solid majority" of Americans, Tedder said.
"We need to pray together to help stop this downward spiral," he said.
Leo Harlin Sr. said he would have liked to have seen more people at the event.
"I was hoping we'd have two or three times this many," he said. "But things need to be done differently than the way they are going now. I believe in the U.S. Constitution, and it is being trampled on and ignored."
One example is the country's energy policy, he said.
"I would like to see a comprehensive energy plan -- not windmills," he said. "We ought to be independent. It's not like America to be dependent on other countries."
When the roster of guests had finished speaking, they opened the floor. A truck driver from Texas, Marty Peterson, was the first to take up the microphone.
"The people who call this the party of inclusion -- that's a doggone lie," he said. The audience was temporarily confused, but it quickly became clear that Peterson had intended to say, "exclusion."
"I am so happy to be here," he said. "I would like to take our government back, and we can do it. ... We are right, and they are wrong!"
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No, Tom, I didn't. I also find it difficult to believe you are college educated, considering you seem to have difficulty telling the difference between to and too, as well as there and their. The reality is I don't automatically believe CNN or MSNBC, I check stories for myself before deciding whether or not to believe them. You might want to try and do the same. FAUX news has been proven wrong so many times it isn't really funny any more, especially considering the number of Americans who choose to believe them because it is easier than actually doing any work themselves. Your specific words concerning the "swamp rats" as you called them, was that it was "in the stimulus for Nancy Pelosi district". It was not, it was a possible amount that might go to California Coastal Conservancy, which serves the entire coast of California. It was not "in the stimulus" as you claimed. The story was a lie told by conservative news organizations and politicians, when the truth was pointed out to you, you attempted to backpedal on your original claim, twisting this way and that, in order to try and make it fit the truth. Sadly square pegs do not fit round holes. A bit of knowledge most people gain in elementary school.
Posted by Elizabeth at 12:21 AM
I see what your problem is you don't get out of Newnan enough. There is another world out there. I know I have been to over 20 foreign countries almost all of the states and I use to be able to speak some German and Korean but havn't practiced either language in years. Now I am taking Japanese but heh I have done more in my life then you will probaly ever dream of but keep up the good fight for what you believe in.
Posted by Tom at 12:03 AM
Since you don't know the anwser to another question kinda like the constitution questions you can't anwser. Judge Anna Taylor in Michigan who is a member of the ACLU a liberal organizatin that was started by a commmunist and the ACLU itself.
Posted by Tom at 11:54 PM
Then Adam who were they? Why isn't Bush in jail? Fact is you don't know who the judges were but I do remember it was liberal judges in their opinion Bush violated the law and but it was last year and I didn't write their names down.
Posted by Tom at 11:44 PM
Please enlighten us Tom. Who were these 'Liberal Judges'? The truth is you have NO IDEA. You simply spout off without knowing the facts, again.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 8:28 PM
You started it with the insults. I to have a college education. I used my GI Bill benefits after serving 22 years in the military and in two wars. ALso my last 3 years in the military I was supervisor of a Security force/ anti-terroism unit so I do know something about investigating. You keep right on believing Msnbc and cnn they have proven themselves over again to report lies. The thing with foxnews is they can back up there claims. As far as a sad life I live a very happy and great life. Very active also I donate 15 percent of my income to charitble organizations that help the poor mainly children in foreign countries. Like I said there is a reason CNN and Msnbc rate lower and its not because they present the news. Also my Dad didn't buy me a ford I bought the ford (66 mustang) myself from a uncle. lol Thought I would throw that in. Also one last thing Captain Kangaroo wasn't a military officer like your liberal college will tell you, it was a kids show in the 60s. Also didn't know Fox telling the truth was considered hatred. Oh yes I never said it was written into the stimulus you said that I said there is 30 million in the stimulus going to swamp rats (salt harvest mouse) just so your not confused again.
Posted by Tom at 8:16 PM
Tom, it simply is not like saying Mercury instead of Ford, it's more like saying my dad bought me a ford, when really he never did. Whatever money went to coastal conservation after the stimulus package was written has no bearing on your claim that the wording was written into the stimulus bill. A lie is a lie is a lie, and that, dear friend, is plenty of common sense. CNN and MSNBC rate lower than FAUX news because they present news, whereas FAUX news presents entertainment and incendiary hatred towards others, which for much of America, sadly, is a desirable commodity. I understand your issue that actual education and investigation is boring, and that knowledge is somehow inherently liberal, when you prefer to have so much fun spreading lies and hatred,which apparently is inherently conservative, but really the old boring real education is worth the time and effort in the long run. By the way I've been working for a living since I was 15 years old, that's how I can afford to go to college now. I'm sorry being confronted with truth is so hurtful to you that you have to resort to insults and more lies. It's a sad life you lead when you concentrate on hate instead of improving your self and your mind, as well as the world around you.
Posted by Elizabeth at 4:19 PM
I am sorry I should have said mouse instead of rat. But heh its like saying a mercury instead of ford. But there basicaly the samething. But heh yall keep on watching msnbc cnn etc I think those are at the bottom of the world in viewer rating. G wonder why.
Posted by Tom at 1:13 PM
Thats right I forgot about the liberal judges who ruled that. Amazing these are the same people that said CLinton never lied under oath.
Posted by Tom at 1:10 PM
You keep believing in Obama as he spends this nation into oblivion. But heh we want call it spending we will say its helping people to feel better about themselves. Once you get out and work for a living like the rest of us you will understand if you ever do.
Posted by Tom at 1:09 PM
I am sorry common sense is to difficult for you to understand. The 30 million is going to the wetlands bottom line and the mouse lives in it. Maybe you should get out and work for a living and not let liberals at the college where you go fulltime influence your reasoning. Again bottom line the money is going to the project and again the 30 million is coming out of the stimulus.
Posted by Tom at 1:03 PM
Several Courts have allready ruled that the warrantless wiretaping has violated the Constitution. But keep trying buddy.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 12:45 PM
How do you know they havn't followed the law? Thats your interpretation. Things are allowed during wartime for the security of the nation. But good try.
Posted by tom at 11:44 PM
No you didn't call it an earmark, but you said it was in the stimulus package. It wasn't. There is no earmark for California Coastal Conservancy, nor is there one for the mice in question. It simply is not there. The story that claims it was there is not true. It cannot get any simpler than that. Whether or not any stimulus money is eventually allocated by the Army Corps of Engineers for wetlands restoration has no bearing on the lie that was told by conservatives concerning this matter, or the fact that every one of the supposed earmarks listed by them has turned out to be either legitimate stimulus spending or simply not actually present. Such as teh volcano monitoring pointed out by Bobby Jindal. The problem with people like you is you choose purposely to believe lies and to never check what you are being told. That kind of willful ignorance is inexcusable. As to Google's ownership or even the political donations of any people affiliated with Google does not change the fact that they are not a website. Google is a search engine, when using google to search for a story you are returned all sites that mention the words involved in the story, liberal, conservative, and any in between.
Posted by Elizabeth at 11:36 PM
You said 30 million was going to a rat, its not. SOME of the money will go to coastal restoration. The restoration MAY improve conditions for the rat, but the intended purpose of the money is not to save a rodent. You're not going to win here buddy. Just because Sean Hanity or Drudge says something doesn't make it true.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 11:34 PM
This is crazy. All of you arguing over this 'party'. It shouldn't have been just republicans there, everyone should have been there! Our future and our children's future is at stake here. I just received the new payroll tax information and couldn't believe that most Americans who make several thousand a week will have to pay nearly half back in taxes. Isn't it time we all were taxed fairly? I don't mind helping the poor and needy, however, I have met several people over the years who take advantage of welfare, medicaid, food stamps, and low income housing. At this point, I am tired of paying into a system that is being abused. I pay into Social Security which, according to the recent paperwork I received, will not even be around by the time I retire. How is it fair that I have to give my hard earned money to people who are taking advantage of the system and to some who are not citizens? Shouldn't we take our country back? The trillions of dollars for the stimulus package shouldn't have gone to the banks that screwed us over, it should have went to the American Citizens. I believe that if the stimulus money was give to citizens, the economy would be back on track and probably better than before. Just my opinion, don't freak out and call me names like so many of you on here seem to like to do. I am all for fair tax. I am a republican, however, I didn't like a lot of what Bush did and I didn't care for McCain at all, but I felt they were better than what we had before Bush and what we have now. It seems Socialism is in the works and the political parties and American Citizens are to busy putting each other down and arguing over stupid things to even know that this is happening. It seems like everyday our rights are slowly being taken away. When will this country wake up and realize that the government doesn't run the country, the citizens do. We need to ban together, regardless of parties, and stop this before we become China.
Posted by Citizen at 11:00 PM
Maybe if I exlain this way. Its like saying we gave 30 million to buy the ingredients to make ice cream. But we didn't buy ice cream just the ingredients. Or how about this which happened to me as a kid, the neighbors were planting grass in there yard front and back. My Mom told me not to go to the front door which is where I always went when I would go over to see my friends. Even though I knew what she meant stay out of the yard I went to the back door. Hey she said front not back even though I knew what she meant stay out of the yard. Its like the 30 million going to another name but its still taking care of the mouse.
Posted by tom at 8:10 PM
Reread my comments since you want to split hairs I never used the word earmark in any of my comments. So we can't call it what we want.
Posted by tom at 8:02 PM
If you actually read the comments I left you would see that I pointed out the 4th Amendment is being violated. But thanks.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 7:32 PM
Google is owned and ran by liberals. Specifically George Soros has a big claim to it. CNN talks about conservatives does that make it not a liberal station. Also the money is going to the California Coastal Conservancy not maybe but is. So either way the money is still going to help the mouse. You want to split hairs the fact is the money is going to help the mouse. I don't care how you try to explaim it away. There are over 8000 earmarks in the stimulus some are for what you call other projects. They don't have a name. But is there one in there that says Nancy Pelosis swamp rats? No, Mouse swamp rat whatever. ITs like saying a station wagon isn't a car or we are going to spend 30 million on wetlands the mouse just happens to be in the wetland. The Army Corp of Engineers will decide which wetlands. I guess you didn't see that part heh. Check and see how much money Google donated to the Obama campaign.
Posted by tom at 7:12 PM
No Tom, we can't call it what we want. You specifically claimed there was a 30 million dollar earmark in the stimulus package for swamp rats in Nancy Pelosi's district. This was not true. There was no earmark, neither the California Coastal Conservancy nor the Salt Marsh Mouse in question were mentioned in the stimulus package. However, if they do receive stimulus money it will be for coastal conservancy, which will create jobs along the California coast, and therefore is stimulus. Either way it NEVER appeared as an earmark in the stimulus package.
Posted by Elizabeth at 5:56 PM
Tom, Google is not a site. It is a search engine that connects to websites. It is certainly not limited to liberal sites, it pulled up multiple conservative sites and their misreports of the 30 million dollar swamp rat tale. However it also brought up the corrections of those stories. The 30 million dollars was never written into the stimulus package. The California Coastal Conservancy used that figure as a potential, an amount they would like to have for several different projects only one of which was swamp restoration. This was not included in the stimulus package. Will the California Coastal Conservancy receive some stimulus money? Maybe, but again the story that it was included in the stimulus package and that this marsh mouse was in there as well, was a lie. Please, feel free to use whichever search engine suits, and find the information for yourself.
Posted by Elizabeth at 5:15 PM
You all can call it what you want the fact is 30 million is going to the wetlands. Its like saying a mercury auto isn't a ford. Just in case you are wondering Ford makes the mercury line of cars.
Posted by tom at 3:55 PM
You can never anwser my questions about the constitution even though you have read it. Oh yeah you mispelled concern. lol Heck I think I just mispelled misspelled. Oh well. Good Point Scott B
Posted by tom at 3:51 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but google is a well known liberal site If you will look else where you will find that the California Coastal Consevancy is getting 30 million and it will be used on 4000 acres of wetlands restoration projects which includes saving the mouse. Your right it wasn't hard to get the facts if you look in the right place.
Posted by tom at 3:05 PM
Well as I sit here reading these comments , I figure maybe I, as a hard working American can come up with a government plan to help the ever growing problem of obesity just as taxing smokers (yes I am one , but of my own CHOICE), so on with the plan . In every grocery store, dairy queen, Brewster’s, from here on out there will be a $1.30 tax per cone, gallon, pint, cup ECT. These monies will go for obesity studies and overweight recipients. I know it sounds ridiculous but this is the kind of crap our government is doing to the people (all the people, not just select ones) dems and rep. I tried to make this as example simple to understand so maybe the small minded can really grasp it. Taxation without representation that’s what the tea party is about . WAKE UP before it’s too late.
Posted by Scott B at 12:40 PM
Give up now! Tommy isn't concered with facts. He will go on and on about the Constitution but has admitted he has never read it.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 12:34 PM
Tom, try looking somewhere besides the conservative sites that misreported it in the first place. It was never in the stimulus package, it never happened. The GOP staffer that started it in the first place and several of the people who ran with the report admitted it was an exaggeration of a comment made by someone completely unconnected with the stimulus package itself. I found out all of the details of the story just by running a google search, it wasn't hard to get the facts.
Posted by Elizabeth at 9:54 AM
The official name of the rat is Salt Harvest Mouse. It was considered the most ridiculous pork project victories in the history of the modern U.S Congress.
Posted by Tom at 1:49 AM
I hate to break the news to you but look again. There was 30 million given to Nancy Pelosi district for saving a certain species of swamp rats. I did't realize you were the constituional lawyer. Isn't there something in the constitution about protecting life and liberty? So why do our Supreme court justices allow abortion? They also claim to be constitutional experts. You just said kinda hard to determine whether on not they are targeting legit targets. So you don't know and how do you know they havn't followed the law and gotten warrants? Need to stop watching CNN and Msnbc. If tapping phones saves american lives I am all for it.
Posted by Tom at 1:30 AM
I feel like we wouldn't need a bail out if we just kept American dollars on American soil so to speak I dont understand why we are still buying tons of oil from other countries when we have enough oil in our reserves to last us all our lives our kids lives and their grand kids lives(YOU WOULD THINK WITH TECHNOLOGY WE WOULD HAVE FOUND AN ALTERNATE TO CRUDE BY THEN) why not drill here keeping the American dollar here creating American jobs.pretty soon we will have foreigners owning all the convienience stores which sell the gas and they WILL have a monopoly.
Posted by american citizen at 12:54 AM
I looked into this swamp rat claim, and apparently it boils down to this. In looking for ways to criticize the stimulus package a GOP staffer called a Federal Agency and asked what they might do, should they receive stimulus money. They responded that if they were given stimulus money they would like to use it for wetlands restoration in the San Francisco area, possibly including, but not limited to, protecting a certain endangered salt marsh mouse. After that certain Republican politicians leveled a charge that Pelosi had included 30 million dollars to save a swamp mouse. Unfortunately for them the stimulus package never included any such earmark. And this convoluted tale of how a comment was transformed into a supposed earmark is why it is so important to always check behind the talking heads before you believe anything, they love to exaggerate, and often tell outright lies.
Posted by Elizabeth at 12:43 AM
Tommy, do some research. No money was given to 'swamp rats'
Posted by Adam Reuter at 11:55 PM
Tom, Have you ever heard ot the Fourth Amendment? Oh yeah, you have allready stated that you have not read the Constitution. Kinda hard to determine whether or not they are targeting legit targets when they have failed to follow the law and get warrants.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 11:53 PM
The Dems were in charge of the Senate from 2000 to 2002 then congress 06 till now. . The economy was already coming out of the recession. But I agree about politicians on both sides that say one thing and do another.
Posted by tom at 10:17 PM
LOL Tom, yea really. My views would be way to radical for those guys.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 7:50 PM
Well Tom,without looking into the swamp rat issue I won't hazard a comment. I prefer to know exactly what I'm talking about before I speak. Bobby Jindal might do well to follow suit, after deriding the need for money to monitor volcanoes one under surveillance blew. So often money that seem ill spent turns out to be very necessary. You might want to check who else was getting money from the stimulus package, many conservative politicians who derided the package are seeing a lot of money coming to their districts in what could easily be called pork, but that will in actuality create jobs and stimulate the economy. Many politicians say one thing and then do whatever suits them. That's why I make it a habit to check into anything I hear as opposed to just believing it because some party line talking head spouted it in my general direction. As to executive orders, again three months is simply not enough time, even working around the clock to create and sign enough executive orders to correct everything that went wrong in the last 8 years. We shall see where the topic ends under this administration and I will reserve judgment until that time.
Posted by Elizabeth at 7:19 PM
What part of the constitution did the gov violate? And who was being wiretapped that wasn't a potential threat to the security of the USA.
Posted by tom at 7:17 PM
I don't think this protest was ever about not wanting to pay taxes. It was about wanting Washington to be more responsible with how they spend the money once they get it. No one wants to hand their hard earned money over to a government that is just going to flush it away on unnecessary bills that they pushed through over night without even reading the fine print. There is a place for everything, including taxes and programs that help people who fall on hard times. They shouldn't be abolished, but there should be some serious changes to the policies that govern them. There just needs to be more responsibility in DC...period.
Posted by S at 4:47 PM
I thought you to guys were his campaign managers.
Posted by tom at 3:44 PM
There is a such thing as Executive orders Obama has done a few which means he could stop the wiretaps if he wanted to. But he realizes that they is some good to it. I am glad you don't mind paying your hard working money to taxes someone has to help pay for the 30 million to take care of the swamp rats in California. That was in the stimulus for Nancy Pelosi district.
Posted by tom at 3:39 PM
Having nothing to hide has nothing to do with the gov. violating the Constitution. Have you forgotten about the whole 'unlawful search and seizure' thing?
Posted by Adam Reuter at 3:25 PM
Dear Silence Dogood, So nice to see a fellow Ben Franklin admirer. It was noticed. Lovingly, "Poor" Richard Saunders.
Posted by Katie B. at 2:09 PM
I don't know why I attempted to read all of the comments and decide my own opinion. Inevitably, if I would have responded with one, I would probably be attacked on grammer/spelling, or by someone who probably sat at their computer for an hour, hashing out ways they could respond ever so witty and smart, leading people to believe that they know what their talking about. I agree with some responses and the others that I don't, I honestly respect your opinion, but what I don't understand is why are people bashing an active rally, no matter if it's liberal or conservative based!?! We should be proud as a community that our citizens are getting out and care about what our govt does. If some disagree, get involved and stop complaining.
Posted by Amanda at 2:05 PM
I agree with Dyark. These reps are part current entrenched political establishment class. I trust these guys as far as I can throw a stick.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 11:25 AM
It was good to see him at the event, however he is part of the problem and not part of the solution. While Billy Horne played it safe and can say he was misquoted and never said what was read. You cannot trust either of these guys.
Posted by Dyark at 2:53 AM
Actually alot of people now realize that fox news and real radio really was telling the truth about Obama.
Posted by Tom at 1:56 AM
U been drinking again heh
Posted by Tom at 1:52 AM
Actually tom, I was speaking to the individual tax codes, however as a business operator I have yet to notice our taxes being unduly harsh or large. Admittedly ours is a small local business and not a huge corporation. Then again the huge corporations seem to make out far better using tax shelters and various other methods to minimize their tax bills than we do. As to Obama's continuation of the wiretapping your claim is not exactly the entire story. He has been President for 3 months, and officially the DOJ is as of now continuing that policy, because that is what is currently the law. Now that doesn't mean they are actively wiretapping people under this administration, I don't know if they are or not, and neither do you, what it means is the DOJ is taking a legal stance in accordance with Bush's law in an ongoing case. It also means the law has yet to be changed, again that doesn't mean it won't be, given time. Three months is hardly long enough to effect the changes we hope to see. One last comment concerning our taxes and Renee's overly dramatic exclamation, I've been paying taxes for many years now, as have all of my friends and family, I have yet to hear of a single person being taxed to DEATH.
Posted by Elizabeth at 1:21 AM
Actually Renee I'm a full time college student and my husband and I own a business that fully supports us and our children, but I find it interesting that you would immediately resort to a personal attack when someone points out your hypocrisy concerning taxes. Then again maybe that's just to be expected from someone who attacks a system that supports her as much as anyone else. I pay my taxes and enjoy the infrastructure that helps all of us, I also enjoy knowing that our populace benefits in general from what we pay in. I'd be really interested to see how you or any of us would be able to work the jobs we do have or pursue education without that infrastructure. Of course we can see that, if we just choose to look, as there are numerous other countries that are failing from that very lack. Basically you wouldn't be able to earn your money without what we as a country have built with our community pot, and you're just too ignorant to appreciate that.
Posted by Elizabeth at 1:08 AM
Turfkiller, really original. I am revoking your Huffington Post talking points privilidges. Open your eyes to the overall picture, not just the blinder you have for a dadgum donkey or elephant. Tom, just giving Adam hard time, but as a vet as well I know where you are coming from. Brothers in arms always!
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 12:48 AM
Repeatedly asked is where were they during the prior 8 years? I got the answer! They were inside sitting on their duffs believing everything Fox Noise or Unreal Radio was telling them. So I can understand the shock and disbelief these party baggers must feel. They have just learned that just about everything Fox Noise and Unreal Radio has told them to be fantasy.
Posted by Turfkiller at 12:13 AM
I hope you enjoy living off of my hard earned money. You sound like one of those who expect the government to support them in everything they do. You are probably on welfare, and have more kids than you can afford.
Posted by Renee at 10:57 PM
I hate to tell you this but Obama is continuing the same policy of phone tapping. Way I see it if your not doing anything wrong what do you have to worry about? They can tap my phones all day I don't do anything thats illegal. Read the latest Homeland Security Report they are calling conservative veterans possible right wing terroist. You better check again the USA has one of the highest tax codes espcially for business. Ya'll don't pick on Adam we are military brothers. I am the good brother and he is almost a good brother. lol
Posted by tom Q at 9:33 PM
So where were you when Bush and co. were tapping phone lines and rapidly eroding the freedom of the individual? What freedoms, exactly, have you lost in the three months of this Presidency?
Posted by Elizabeth at 7:18 PM
I'm sad to see that many people in Newnan continue to recite liberal talking points while Congress and the President destroy our standard of living and incrementally restrict our God given freedoms. In the not to distant future, I envision this same group manually typing their comments by candlelight from their government sponsored housing--a brand new cardboard box.
Posted by Silence Dogood at 6:40 PM
Adam are you kidding? You're the one who is pathetic. Why must you use the same talking points as the liberal media.
Posted by Newnan resident at 6:37 PM
Just wanted to point out that the Democrats were in charge of the House and Senate the last two years, and the Senate was controlled by the Democrats the first two years of the first Bush term. To blame Republicans alone is a classic straw man political argument.
Posted by Get Real at 6:21 PM
Oh boy, here we again Adam! See my previous comments that were on the previous blog concerning the same statements you have made.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 4:36 PM
Yes, I thought this was supposed to be a rally against government taxation and all the mess both Republicans and Democrats have gotten us into. Yet it turned into a Republican fest. Heck, I bet this crowd would have even cheered Lynn Westmoreland if he showed up. Hello people - they are part of the problem! And the sheer ignorance and idiocy of the people was mind-boggling. They will believe anything Fox News tells them.
Posted by sassy chick at 4:34 PM
Adam and those alike, with an honest heart, I pity you. It must be terrible to hold the contempt and resentment that you have inside- it must feel like a festering wound. I ask that you please discover who the true enemy in your life is and that you become an independent thinker.I went to both tea parties, Newnan and Atlanta. Granted, the Newnan tea party had a litte more political "party" in it- but everyone was incredibly inclusive and friendly. We as a people have got to get on the same page or we will assuredly be divided, conquered, and destroyed. It is heartbreaking to watch our neighbor citizens become party pawns. We have more in common with one another than any party- and if we keep marginalizing one another- we are doing exactly what the party's want. Don't be a pawn, don't be a useful idiot. Hear your neighbor's grievances. If you want to cheer for a "team" go to a ballgame. If you want to live in a prosperous nation- be an independent thinker and always side with what is just and free. If you don't hold on to a party- you have no party leader that you must constantly defend. You will be free to only defend what is truth.
Posted by Katie B. at 4:31 PM
Gee Renee, now who's living under a rock? This country has one of the lowest tax rates in the developed world. Do you have any clue what this country would be like with a completely uneducated and disease ridden population? Are you trying to convince us that you would belong to the small percentage that would be on top in a world like that, and even if you would why would you wish for a country like that? Are you also trying to convince us you don't drive on the roads, no one in your family's past was educated through the public education system, you don't drink clean water and breathe clean air? Do you think all these things, and so many more, are at all possible without a prosperous population contributing to a community pot? Try to think, people, not just react in a knee jerk and idiotic fashion.
Posted by Elizabeth at 4:12 PM
Who is John Galt?
Posted by John at 4:05 PM
Reading all these posts I see all is about money, "my money", and the government taking "my money", etc. etc. Where has solidarity with the poor and weak and other Christian principles gone. Y'all should be ashamed to attend church on Sunday while turning your face the other way when confronted with sharing "your money" via taxation to assist the poor. And this Mitch Seabaugh guy, what an opportunist! He's just an arribist trying to cover his ineptitude...we got to get rid of him and send really working people to Congress!
Posted by Sharpsburg Hack at 3:40 PM
This was not an anti tax rally, it was an anti Obama rally. None of you seemed concered with the spending or expansion of the gov. under Bush.
Posted by Adam Retuer at 3:07 PM
“It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!”
Posted by Bill at 2:53 PM
Benjamin Franklin, "Here is my creed: I believe in one God, the Creator of the universe. That he governs it by his providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion." P.S. I've got more if you want to educate yourself, just let me know.
Posted by Aaron Griffin at 2:12 PM
I am sick of being taxed. The government taxes way too much. I make my money..and the government has to get their portion. They have to educate everyone's kids with my money, pay for healthcare for the poor with my money, buy food for all the low life mothers who have no money, but keep having children. And the list goes on and on and on. Taxed Enough Already!!!! Create a fair tax for everyone!!! This movement really has nothing to do with Democraps or RepubliCAN's. It is about the government TAXING US TO DEATH.
Posted by Renee at 1:26 PM
The Newnan event was a great prelude to the big Atlanta Tea Party last night. Inspiring, uplifting, patriotic, encouraging---there are many positive words to describe it! Regarding some of the comments here, I've seen more poor grammar and misspelled words HERE, daily, in Times-Herald comments than I did on signs. A DEMOCRATIC congress has been running the spending for a while now, so pointing the finger at Republicans is only part of the equation. And Elizabeth, it's not really an "A-ha" or "Gotcha" moment that Seabaugh or other Republicans might participate in such a rally. Theirs has long been the party of SMALLER government and LOWER taxes. That was the theme of the Tea Parties. Nearly 20,000 who were in Atlanta last night understood. I'm happy to be counted among them. Last night was about being an AMERICAN. I encourage everyone, regardless of party affiliation, to attend the next one, appropriately scheduled for July 4th!
Posted by American Citizen at 12:22 PM
So tell me.. is it only OK to protest if you are a liberal? At least we offer a solution to the economy: The Fair Tax. What has our teleprompter in chief offered? Increased taxes and spreading the wealth around.
Posted by proud to be a Libertarian at 12:14 PM
I for one, do not want to hear another politician at one of these events. They can come, but they need to listen to us for once. We need to watch what they do and VOTE. Stop being a bunch of sheep.
Posted by Steve at 12:04 PM
Mitch Seabaugh is an embarrasement. All he ever wants to do is show up just to get his face in the picture. I can't name one thing he's ever done for the good of Coweta County.
Posted by Taxpayer at 11:50 AM
There were quite a few more than 200 people at this rally.
Posted by bornagain at 11:45 AM
Operation Gustapo, the Obama Libtards are out in full force! Watch out, they are watching you since your a terrorist in their eye.
Posted by Sunshine at 11:41 AM
Our founding fathers did not "believed in a Supreme Being, they believed in God, and they believed that God gave us the rights we have to govern ourselves." Here are some quotes from our founding fothers: "Lighthouses are more useful than churches." Ben Franklin "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." Thomas Jefferson In God We Trust did not become offical motto until 1956 whan an act of congress passed a law. Know what your talking about before you speak, and this is why no one will ever actually take them serious.
Posted by Josh at 11:36 AM
As a fiscal conservative, I did not agree with the Bush stimulus. Specifically, I don't agree with Obama's either. Simply, our government spending is out of control. Yet, most liberals and the "uneducated to politics" crowd believe the lies that that the big government is the only way and we can spend our way out of this. The sad fact is that most Americans are so thirsty for honest leadership that they will turn up a glass full of sand and drink before they check to see what is in the glass. If history has proven one thing, its that doing the same wrong thing over and over doesn't work. This type of agenda and spending has been tried before and failed time and time again. I will never accept the fact that we must tax the rich and distribute wealth because someone is not willing to work at the same level I have and continue to do. I will not sit by and allow our constitution to trashed by people who do not love what this country was founded on. I will not lay down any longer! Every revolution has been the result of a great awakening. Ladies and Gentlemen, WELCOME TO THE AWAKENING. God help us as we take our nation back.
Posted by Curtiss at 11:36 AM
Thank you Terry Pitts! You are on the right track. These comments look like a bunch of children bickering back and forth over party nonsense- when we're ALL being robbed blind by the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM! They are locusts who have no love for any nation- and once they finish pillaging America, these internationalists will move on to the next prosperous nation. There is NO oversight in what they do & in 1913 our inept Congress relinquished Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution & allowed this den of thieves to control our money! You want to know why there is inflation, why there are bailouts, why anything is said to be "too big to fail"- look to the Federal Reserve. The real "leader" of this nation is the Feds Chairman- not the President. And he's looking out for private banking interests- not any of us- no matter what party.
Posted by Katie B. at 11:33 AM
Do not be led blindly. This administration is using the economic crisis to force us into Socialism. The United States Constitution is at stake here.
Posted by T at 11:31 AM
Grumpy Sally, Grow up. Spelling and grammatical errors have nothing to do with the state of our economy. It's due to government overspending and high taxes.
Posted by Laurie at 11:25 AM
We wanted change, we got change. Unfortunately bigger government with more control is not the answer. That's how socialist unions are formed. Any economist and common sense will tell you that you just can't spend your way out of a recession. The turn around is slowly happening due to our great free market, free enterprise system and the unyielding American spirit. Not because of the government. Change we can believe in? I don't think so.
Posted by Robert at 11:17 AM
It was a nonpartisan event so where were the Democrats? Oh yeah, they are the ones that unanamously voted for these programs. Maybe they just can't handle the truth when it is exposed in this manner. The fact that they do not look after the tax payers best interest is very clear with their abscence. If you can't stand the heat, don't go into the kitchen.
Posted by Mr. Greenjeans at 11:13 AM
A tax protest with corporate sponsorship and ole Mitch is right at the front, whipping up the multitude. End the Bush war and the Bush funneling cash to his buddies in banking, oil, and Halliburton and there would be no need for a tax. But now, American children do without, while Iraqi children have plenty. What say you, Mitch?
Posted by Drago at 11:07 AM
Elizabeth, please take the time to research all the issues. There is plenty of blame to go around. Check out the roadblocks put up by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd - I could go on - just on the Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac issues. The democrats would rather have our country destroyed than to have supported any efforts to make things better for Americans - private retirement investments and the war in Iraq come to mind - over these past years. This bail out will tax us, our children and our grandchildren to death.
Posted by Sarah at 10:58 AM
Let's not forget the 8 years before Bush...which is also why we are in the mess we are in. But, of course, you live under a rock - so you probably don't even realize that.
Posted by Renee at 10:44 AM
It is not just the last 2 years, 8 years, and it is not only the Democrats and/or the Republicans. First, there is the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977. Another root cause is the Federal Reserve that operates outside governmental control due to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The dollar is worth less that 10% against what it was worth in 1913. Then look at Washington leadership’s plan in to aright the economy. This Keynesian influenced concept did not work for FDR in the 1930’s. We need real change with real solutions from someone brave enough to step forward.
Posted by Terry Pitts at 10:31 AM
The Republicans have been in control for 8 years, the democrats for 3 months but all of the problems facing the nation is caused by the democrats? The first economic package was approved and given by the Republicans but the Democrats are putting us in debt? What am I missing here?
Posted by Debbie at 10:01 AM
I agree with Elizabeth - the free spending days are over with - now is the time we are ALL having to deal with the mess of the past 8 years. Stop being so close minded people. What I do not understand is were have you guys been for the passed eight years - with the war spending - the three stimilus packages - tax cuts - I mean do not get me wrong - I loved seeing my IRA grow at an alarming rate. Never felt so good - but guess what in the passed year and a half I lost it all and than some. I just recieved in the mail my statement for this quarter - guess what I did not gain anything - but I did not loss anything. Hopefully we are on the right path - however we have a huge financial pit to climb out of...
Posted by Marie at 10:00 AM
Elizabeth, you've got to be crazy! Sure, there might be economic turnaround, but at what cost? I don't want economic turnaround if it is going to cost my children their prosperity. The economy is cyclical, and taking steps like the Bush and Obama administrations have taken to break the cycle unnaturally will have long lasting consequences!
Posted by Brian at 9:55 AM
We should have had more taxation as far as schools were involved for these people. Most of the signs had spelling and grammar errors. Idiots.
Posted by grumpy sally at 9:54 AM
Interesting after all the claims that this is a nonpartisan protest that Republican Mitch Seabaugh shows up and talks about taking back Congress and the Presidency. The Republicans had Congress for 6 years and the Presidency for 8, and their mess is why we are having to spend the money we are spending now. A Democrat has been President now for only 3 months and the Democrats were a bare majority for the last 2 years, and already we are starting to see signs of an economic turnaround. I suppose we could have just not bothered to try and repair the Republican damage. I wonder what you would be protesting then, or if you would have time to protest while the economy continued to crumble.
Posted by Elizabeth at 9:08 AM
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LIke I have told people before if you knew what the words meant thats what counts. Oh by the way its FOX NEWs and they have proven more accurate then the other organizations thats why they are the most watched. I didn't backpedal on anything. 30 million is going to the mouse plan and simple. Your right simple knowledge gained in elementary school keep trying and you will be at that point one day.
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