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Published Sunday, April 12, 2009 in Local
'Tea party' Wednesday at Newnan City Hall
The Newnan Times-Herald
On the day that represents taxation, Cowetans will join thousands all over the country at "tea parties," in protest of bailouts and other recent government policies.
"Taxed Enough Already" demonstrations will be held at Newnan City Hall and Peachtree City Hall at noon on Wednesday. The Atlanta Tea Party will be held on the grounds of the state capitol at 7 p.m.
"I've got three kids and I am thinking -- what kind of country is it going to be if we continue to have our government taking over business and rewarding bad behavior?" said Cindy Fallon, organizer of the Peachtree City event. "They are rewarding these businesses that aren't accountable and don't have good business practices. And the ones that do, they do nothing for them," Fallon said.
Fallon said the biggest thing she's ever organized until now was a birthday party.
But, "I have felt very compelled to step out and try to pull people together," she said. "I feel like a lot of us have just sat by and watched things happen. I think everybody has had enough, basically," she said. "I just want to get people that feel the same way together. That is what it is going to take."
Chip Coursey is organizing the Newnan event. For Coursey, wasteful government spending was the catalyst for action.
"That has been bothering me for a while, personally," Coursey said. When he saw a television news piece on the tea parties, "they said if you are mad about taxes, for everybody to join the tea party and find out where it is going on in your area."
Coursey found out that no one had signed up to organize an event in Newnan, so he clicked on the button that said he would like to help plan an event. "By clicking on that, they listed me as the head planner," Coursey said. That was a surprise, but he decided to run with it.
Since then, he has gotten commitments from about 40 people. And if they all bring their spouses and friends, there should be a good crowd.
Participants can spend the whole two hours on the city hall lawn, or just stop by, but the best time to be there will be for the kickoff at noon, Coursey said. Participants are welcome to bring signs, but keep the messages clean, Coursey said.
Bailouts and stimulus spending are the main catalysts for protests, but Coursey is concerned about various tax increases. Fallon worries the so-called "fairness doctrine" will rear its head again to inhibit freedom of speech and religion, and she's concerned about a bill she says would force companies to hire employees against their moral beliefs.
Peachtree City's state representative, Matt Ramsey, and state senator, Ronnie Chance, will be speaking at that rally, as will several other speakers, including a retired Army officer. Chance will talk about the differences in Georgia's budget, which must be balanced, and the federal budget. There will also be a table of information about various organizations "that can help change our decision-makers in Washington," Fallon said.
Fallon encourages people to come and stay as long as they want. It's a way to "have fun, learn about organizations you can be involved in, and spread the word."
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Those of us who were in Newnan at the Tea party were older or those who chose to take their lunch breaks to protest against out of control spending and raising taxes. I have never gotten a job from a poor man, thus all of the tax increases on the 'rich' do effect me because when business do not have enought money, the lower paid workers are usually the first to go. So all of this mess does effect us ALL!
Posted by Dianne at 1:19 AM
Shannon, please explain to me how if someone works hard , I mean hard, like 80 hours a week and sacrafices by going to school and doing some sort of internship. That they should pay more in taxes than someone who works their bare minimum ya know takes off early a couple days, comes in late a couple the next week 'no one will notice right?' Why the person that sacrafices should pay more in taxes than the person that doesnt. Becouse I dont think they should, they should pay the same amount or just go to a flat tax.
Posted by Suzi at 3:07 PM
Shannon - you sound angry at fiscal conservatives, when you don't even understand your own mortgage. The total amount you've paid is Principal & Interest. The amount the bank sez you've paid down is the Principal. Both figures are correct and in line with norms. Grow up and stop criticizing what you obviously don't understand.
Posted by Sick&TiredofWhiners at 6:19 PM
I cannot go to the party, but I will be with everyone in spirit. I do work two jobs, my husband just found a job after being laid off for 8 months, and we have paid our bills/mortgage and taxes - just like we are suppose to. What makes me ill is families who choose NOT to work, mainly because they have gotten comfortable living on food stamps and TANF, and yet they get $5,000 back on their taxes. How is this fair??? I am tired of working two jobs, 7 days a week, but I have a family and I would work 3 jobs as long as they get what they need.
Posted by Angela at 5:15 PM
The United States Congress is representative of the country. Together, they vote on the budget. Sometimes they spend money on what you want, sometimes they don’t. And everyone can vote for his or her representatives. Are we not one country?
Posted by bob at 4:44 PM
Most of this could be solved by 'the flat tax'. If we had flat tax lawyers, soldiers, waitresses, secretaries, and illegal immigrants (not to mensions the people doing illegal things besides the illegal immigrants) would ALL pay the same amount of tax becouse you would be taxed on what you spend not what you make. Lets try THAT!!!
Posted by Suzi at 4:07 PM
The Dems were in charge from 06 and blocked legislation that Bush tried to pass to curtail the Wallstreet bunch. Oh yes I do believ DOdd and Franks are both Dems who had a big part in it.
Posted by tom Q at 3:29 PM
I don't know anyone who has the day off? We all work, who are these people who are protesting? Are they all second shift workers? I have a hard time believing anyone is cashing in a vacation day for this! Are they burning sick days? Are they stay at home mom's that have nothing else to do? I have to work, every day to support my family so once a year we can do something nice. This is a great idea but who can do it? Are they all unemployed? Please help me figure this out.
Posted by Curious at 3:26 PM
Taxes aren't the problem, its the spending.....so cut off the supply if you don't like what they're spending it on. Most of us right-wingers are more than happy to pay for roads and national defense. How much of your money do they need....really.
Posted by Matt at 2:19 PM
You know what you are are right it is my responsiblity just like if i choose to live in a bigger house get a higher paying job it is my responsiblity to pay the taxes that I owe. no offense taken it is just I don't think half the people on here have ever read about the Boston Tea and what it was for I think it is another reason to socialize and you are the one that choose to comment as you have on every blog that printed I thougt maybe you could help ole wise one (not really Im being funny)
Posted by Shannon at 2:07 PM
Who is FICA and why are they taking all my money?!?! LOL
Posted by Tea Partier at 2:04 PM
This isn't just about your taxes today, it's about your future. Bush may have doubled the deficit in 8 years but Obama has tripled it in just a few months. YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
Posted by Coweta Gal at 1:59 PM
Shannon, no offense, but it is your responsibility for your own loan. Why should I be burdened with your loan? I guess I would take double shifts at McD'S to ensure I could stay in that house. It might not sound appealing, but it is better than losing everything.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 1:31 PM
You all are having parties and banding together thats nice but at the end of the day my husband is out of work the mortage company say we have only paid 9,000 in eight years on a 128,900 loan our math says differant well over 100,000 we have paid on a house we may no longer be able to live in. an you all are having a party!! well what about a mortage party cause taxes are just what they are it will always be that.
Posted by Shannon at 11:19 AM
"You had better learn to stand up for yourself" words I was taught at a young age. Thank God! I am so proud of all of us who will because Washington DC has forgotten how.
Posted by Pat Turner at 4:49 AM
I am going tomorrow. I'm joining the protest. The reason: I feel like a hostage at tax time--a hostage to the government. I feel the tax code is so complicated that I can't understand it. I feel any error I make has dire consequenses that I can't recover from. I feel like the IRS is participating in legal robbery. Second I don't believe anyone, regardless of financial situation, should pay more or less taxes then anyone else. Aren't we all equal? Then we should pay at an equal rate. Third I've been a government contractor and employee. I know the waste that goes on. Such waste would NOT happen in a succussful public company. Basically taxes are levied unequally, used ineffectively, and wasted often. The problems aren't related to a president. The problems are related to the system. So I'm going...hope to see you there.
Posted by Steve Trofemuk at 1:24 AM
Berta, see my last comments below. No need to repeat myself.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 1:20 AM
Bush vetoed one bill before 2007. He vetoed 11 bills when the Democrats were in control of Congress. It's a stretch to say that the Democrats were in charge in 2007 and 2008. Bush was still the president then.
Posted by bob at 1:09 AM
Quit complainin' about where everybody's been on excessive govt. and taxes - be glad some folks are waking up. Others who haven't continue to cheer the prospect of the most financially-irresponsible entity in the U.S. (the Fed. govt) taking over more of our money and lives. And the really gullible folks celebrate the President's promise that their taxes won't skyrocket until a couple of years down the road. Our current Fed. govt believes that the solution to being in the hole w/ too much debt is to get a bigger shovel and dig deeper, faster.
Posted by Jonathan at 12:30 AM
lets see tommy, 2006-2008 is not 8 years now is it?
Posted by Adam Reuter at 9:11 PM
Why those tea parties NOW? Where were these people the past 8 years? Sleeping? Ignorance is bliss.
Posted by Berta at 8:42 PM
I think you ask another tax advisor to review your situation. the increase you describe could not have come from your federal tax.
Posted by bob at 8:24 PM
I do not make twice as much as last year. My deductions went up this year (mostly medical). I am very comfortable with my tax advisor. They certainly know more than I do and I review their work and question it extensively. By doing a comparative analysis of my taxes of last year versus this year and doing the same for my pay stubs, I have been able to accurately deduce that my taxes have doubled through no major changes in my lifestyle. Last year 25% of my pay was reduced for taxes per pay check. This year 47% of my pay is reduced per paycheck. I make the same amount of money, no extra deductions, no changes. The only change has been in my tax. Why? This is what I want to know. This is my pay stub. Very easy comparative analysis, especially if there have been absolutely no changes. Again, I have heard the talk, but am certainly not seeing the walk.....I want better results and am certainly not impressed. I like the idea of Fair Tax. It is a logical and reasonable line of thought. I don't want my very hard earned money to continue to disappear without my approval. Do you see my point? My money is gone and I made no changes. I now want to know where it went, who gets it, what it is spent on and why? I.....want.....answers! And I am not getting any...leads to a very frustrated tax payer.
Posted by L at 7:03 PM
Federal tax rates have not changed since 2003. If your federal taxes went up in 2007 or 2008, you must have more income or fewer deductions.
Posted by bob at 6:32 PM
According to turfkiller "Taxes aren't the problem, nor have they ever been" Come on, really??? Please explain, because my pocketbook doesn't understand. I have worked hard for most of my adult life and through many different administrations, both democart and republican, trying to get ahead. You can call me crazy but the old saying of "the more I make, the more they take" holds true for both sides of the party line proverbial fence. I say Fair Tax is the way to go.
Posted by taxpaying and hardworking at 5:54 PM
Let me explain why your tax doubled. Whoever does your taxes dosen't know what they are doing. Or did you simply make twice as much this year?
Posted by Skip at 5:41 PM
Once again, a good idea poorly executed. Folks who may support this area actually at WORK at noon on a weekday and commute, so riding back to Atlanta by 7p is out of the question as well.
Posted by KS at 5:39 PM
Once again Adam, you can go to the blame Bush mantra, which just reflects since I am no Republican. Anytime that is brought up, it drowns your argument. I challenge you to look at the bigger picture, outside of a dumb donkey and elephant. Government has grown into something even our founding fathers would never imagine. If it doesnt stop here since we are not to say anything since there is a new admin, then where does it stop?
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 4:57 PM
My taxes didn't double last year. They did this year. I'm not even close to cracking 6 figures. Why? If you can give me a good enough explanation, I will be willing to listen. I heard Obama say he wanted to help the middle class. Buddy, I'm there...and he doubled my taxes this year. Now, I want you to tell me why. Please....I would really like to understand. It is the individual, non-partisan people who would like these questions answered. Why? Where did my money go? Who did it help? Why did you double my taxes this year and I don't even make 100,000? What gives? Adam, Bob and Turfkiller.....please explain. I welcome your explanations.
Posted by L at 4:14 PM
Who was in charge of the country since 06? Obama has spent then any person in the history of the planet. Tax cuts why who owns businesses and pays salaries? Oh thats right its poor people.
Posted by tom Q at 4:07 PM
Its nice to see so many 'fiscal conservatives'. I would like to ask "where were you during the last 8 years?" Oh yeah, spending is bad when Democrats do it. When Reps. do it you turn the other way. How many think it was a great idea for Bush to borrow more money from foreign governments than all the Presidents before him combined? Thats what I thought.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 3:10 PM
The Tea Parties were devised by wealthy people who want to retain the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Their hope was that if many people turned out in support, Congress would not let those tax cuts expire. If you support the Tea Parties and you don’t make a lot more than $250,000 a year, you are working against your own interests.
Posted by bob at 2:14 PM
So this is what our country has become. We are no longer one nation, we have become a divided country, R vs D, race vs race, rich vs poor, etc. This is what has caused the distruction of many countries and this is what will cause our country to fail. As a nation bond together, we were strong. But as a divided country, we are weak and laughed at. This is how we will be overtaken by other countries. We have become blind to what is real. The government is keeping us down by over taxing the people who want to do right, this is why so many people choose welfare over work. The government has made it an easy chose. Um, get up and go to work everyday, giving the government at almost 1/2 my check or staying in bed, being home with my children, keeping all my check and getting even more at tax time? Hard discision isn't it!!
Posted by Lori at 12:10 PM
Hi Wish I Could: You CAN be there! If you can't make the noon event in Newnan, there ARE two chartered busses leaving Coweta tomrrow night to participate in the evening Tea Party at the Capitol in Atlanta. Search "Tea Party" on the Times-Herald site to find the article about Wendy Bloedt and the trip she organized. She has a blog, too. If you can't find it, call the paper. See you tomorrow night!
Posted by Fellow American at 11:46 AM
Adam, you can look at the last eight years if you want. I am looking at the overall picture, a picture of taxation of success. Who wants to aspire to work hard and make money if the goverment is just going to come in, and take a great portion away. Paying progressive income taxes is no way patriotic, but a ponzi scheme that helps take from some to give to others with less to buy votes. I think most dont care about party affiliation as you do, but just want something done.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 11:38 AM
This IS about taxes. As I stated before, my taxes DOUBLED over last year and I had more medical deductions this year. How can you explain it? I had the same income range. Please tell me what benefit this adds to me? Please??!! I really would like to know. I still have bills to pay, only this year....I am having a much more difficult time doing that. Please tell me the secret you are obviously hiding. Why? I really want to know why? Where is my money going and who is it helping? Please tell me Turfkiller....please? At this point, it really doesn't matter who is in office....the taxing and spending is way out of control. The Tea Party is a peaceful demonstration. Simply don't attend.
Posted by L at 11:27 AM
The borrow and spend is the democrats.
Posted by Tom at 8:53 AM
Newt Gingrich and his American Solutions for Winning the Future - an organization that raises millions of dollars from top-shelf longtime Republican Party donors - announced that it was endorsing the Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party. This is all that's left to the republicans, the party of borrow and spend on waste.
Posted by Turfkiller at 2:18 AM
The Democrats have been in charge since 2006.
Posted by Tom Q at 1:27 AM
No matter how many times you keep clicking your heals Dorthy, you have yet to tell the truth. Hannity, Beck, Rush L, FoxNoise and right wing Radio noise makers are the only ones pushing, so this has everything to do with party politics. This tea bag is an astro-turf movement. Taxes are not the problem nor have they ever been, it's what the money is spent on that makes the difference.
Posted by Turfkiller at 1:03 AM
Why in the world is this thing being done at noon on a weekday. Most people that work will not be able to attend, including myself. These are the people who have the most to lose with this current administration. The schools are in session, so the next generation of Newnanite voters will be lost to this great occasion. Is there a bus, or three, going to Atlanta Wednesday evening? That would be an ideal solution... How about it?
Posted by Wish I could... at 10:39 PM
if you want to bring party politics into this, then the tea party is not for you. Stay home and keep your party hate comments to yourself. You're not converting anyone. This is about overtaxation and rampant overspending pure and simple. If we unite under that banner, then we will succeed. Let's hold the scoundrels in either party accountable, and on notice. Bickering back and forth about this president or that, or what party did what only serves the interests of politics not progress on what really counts.
Posted by united we stand at 10:35 PM
If it was an attempt at sarcasm I didn't see it clear enough. Look, in the end I affiliate myself with no party, though I lean libertarian in my stances. What ever it takes to fix our current system of progressive taxation, and out of control spending in D.C.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 10:22 PM
Poor Dirk....the Republicans didn't lose, we all did! What CHANGE have you seen? This isn't Republicans vs. Democrats..this is America trying to survive.
Posted by Jill at 9:29 PM
Have you forgotten the last 8 years? Making any comment regarding Democrats and spending is the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by Adam Reuter at 9:13 PM
Come on Joe, I've seen your posts. I know you comprehend better than that.
Posted by Skip at 8:19 PM
Your exactly right you all the democrats are doing something different its called tax and spend. Something the democrats always do. You call that different?
Posted by tom Q at 7:57 PM
This is NOT a party thing- and apparently must be used as a Red Herring to change the subject due to lack of fact-driven opposition. Not everyone in this country is a member of the RNC or DNC. There are 6 other party affiliations(if not more). The gov't is at war with the middle class (has been consistently) and it is abject foolishness that We, The People squabble over the mischiefs of party. This is about Individual Liberty-and it will serve us all well to promote its cause before we find ourselves revisiting the feudal system.
Posted by Katie B. at 7:57 PM
Dirk, I am more than willing to offer the new administration an opportunity to prove they can make a difference. Unfortunately, when I analyzed my taxes and discovered that they have DOUBLED (over last year), I got a bit upset. I want to see some results for the money that has been taken from me. I am sorry to say that I have seen nothing. I am upset by what is transpiring. I am glad these people are going to use their constitutional right and protest. Everyone is having a hard time these days. Republicans, Democrats or Independents.....whatever....how about Fair Tax?
Posted by L at 7:32 PM
Stephen must not be old enough to remember that the World Trade Centers were bombed by Osama Bin Laden in 1993 under the Clinton Administration! Don't blame bush.
Posted by Jill Travoss at 6:46 PM
Yeah, good luck with this! What exactly to you tea people want to DO to solve the problems with the economy? More tax cuts for the rich? Republicans sound more and more desperate..You lost. Come to grips with it!! We are trying something different now.
Posted by Dirk at 6:44 PM
Hey Sick of Stupidity: Are you serious? You find citizens exercising their constitutional right to peaceful assembly "scary"? More scary than a big government that will take everything you earn (assuming you're an earner) and hand it to someone who does not? Really? And another thing: Race. Really? C'mon, are you kidding me? What are you talking about? Sounds like YOU are fixated on race. Have you even read up on any of the TEA Party protests? You're the only one hung up on that. Race is not a part of this. Hatred is not part of this. Disharmony is created when a government tries to rob its people of liberty, freedom, and their income, when government passes HUGE spending bills they didn't even bother to read, and on and on. Amazing what you define as "scary."
Posted by Fed up taxpayer at 6:29 PM
No our government rather negotiate with terroist. We have the ultimate in ignorance running the county now.
Posted by tom Q at 6:26 PM
This is scary because these brainwashed people actually live here. Scary because they want to return to the days of some living in squallow and dying of neglect is representative of the USA. Scary because they have no idea what this type of behavior does to foster disharmony among the people who live in this country. Most of all it is scary because these people, parents, have chosen to display this behavior in front of their children and promote hatred. Scary because the lie up "front" is taxes when the truth, fueling the lie is race. Lucky for all of us the the government will not negotiate with ignorance.
Posted by Sick of Stupidity at 4:39 PM
Coweta County residents that are fed up with the wasteful spending of our tax dollars from the city hall to the county goverment to the state house to the White House should show up and let our resentment be known. It is time that those responsible for this mess be held accountable. There is spending here in Newnan and Coweta County that should be put on hold until things in the ecomony are better. Speek up Coweta County!
Posted by Feed Up at 4:29 PM
So, according to Skip 9/11 is Bush's fault? Wow, and all this time I thought it was some guys in a cave in Afghanistan. Where did those talking points come from? How did we go from a protest of excess government to this?
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 4:12 PM
If all the conservatives deny listening to Rush Limbaugh then of course they are memorizing the lines from Glenn Beck and Fixnews. Now that the boat is sinking, all they want to do is stop the bailing and sit quietly while the ship goes down. Just proof again that the Republicans are the party of "can't get anything right". They say yes at the wrong time and no at the worst times.
Posted by Turfkiller at 4:12 PM
People, take a stand! Our nation, as we know it, is crumbling as we sit & do nothing. I am just glad to be able to express some of what we are feeling. Socialism has always failed! Doesn't anyone read history any more!!! I want a future for my children & grandchildren. The trouble with socialism is "sooner or later you run out of other people's money". In GOD we still trust (not the government)! See you at the Tea Party, Newnan!
Posted by Concerned Nana at 12:41 PM
I don't listen to Rush, but I AM excited about the TEA Party. I am sorely disappointed in elected leaders who were supposed to be "conservative." I WISH there were an alternative to voting Republican, but I CANNOT vote Democrat. Huge spending, BIG government, cradle-to-grave dependency on Uncle Sam, duping people into thinking wealth equals evil---all these go against my beliefs in personal, individual liberty and our Constitution. I want LESS government, regardless of the party in power. But Stephen, if you think the current Pres is "cleaning up" by spending more, perhaps you should study history. It has NEVER happened! I am for the success of America, for the preservation of our Constitution which is the foundation of our nation, our way of life---hence my interest in liberty over government which is what the TEA Party represents to me. It's WE, the People! Join us Stephen!
Posted by Fed up taxpayer at 12:10 PM
Bush record debts?? Our national debt started over 100 years ago and is now at 1 trillion. However, Obama doubled that debt in less than 100 days. I guess that's part of the cleaning up, right?? P.S. - I don't listen to Rush, either.
Posted by Angela at 12:06 PM
I don't understand why you would have a protest at Newnan City Hall over federal spending. Why make the city look guilty? Get a clue
Posted by L at 12:00 PM
It's not about Obama personally, it's about the government controling businesses and letting these banks get away with things. We the people are paying for these million dollar bonuses and keeping the banks afloat, yet they are not doing their part in helping the economy. Car dealers are going under because the banks won't give out loans, they are raising interest rates on credit cards even for the people who pay their bills faithfully. They are not reworking home loans, so that people maybe can stay in their homes. Our society has become so greedy that it forgot how to care.
Posted by Lori at 11:42 AM
Thanks Stephen for your enlightenment, because you obviously aren't "parroting" anyone? I don't listen to Rush and I didn't support Bush. But when my tax bracket is nearly 30% and I have friends who don't work half the year & get back $10,000 in "refunds" of money they never put in- you feel a little bitter. I welcome you to come to the tea party- I went to the first one in Atlanta and it wasn't about party- we are ANGRY about TAXES. We need to end the Federal Reserve System which is the catalyst of this ALL. It is a CARTEL robbing us and our children blind while we sit around and blame each other. "The Creature from Jekyll Island" is a good starting point to read.
Posted by Katie B. at 11:29 AM
Yea Stephen,Barry is really cleaning it up by tripling the deficit(sarcasm.) I think most of these people were p.o'ed with a progressive tax system, and deficit spending in previous admins. I would look in the mirror if your were looking for sheep! I march to the drum of no one.
Posted by Joe Schmoe at 11:25 AM
That is fine but kindly don't use our taxpayer roads, police protection or schools. I will gladly pay taxes to have a decent police force and schools. Taxes really aren't that high here compared to some other small towns.
Posted by c at 11:19 AM
I love how all you liberals blame Bush. The democrats have been in control since 06. Obama has blown more money in 100 days then any President in the history of the planet. His record deficits will surpass anything in human history. Obama can't awnser a simple question or make a speech without a telepromter to tell him what to say. Obama clean up a mess? He can't even do a simple job as pick a cabinet member who has paid his taxes.
Posted by tom Q at 11:15 AM
I was going to post the same last night but didn't want to hear how Bush kept us safe with it. Safe except for the 4000 at 911. Or the 5000 to invade someplace that didn't do anything to us.
Posted by Skip at 10:22 AM
I love how all you 'conservatives' stood idly by and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as bush ran up record debts, but now that President Obama has to clean up your mess, its tea party time! But why should you think for yourselves? It's so much easier to parrot when you hear rush limbaugh say than it is to have your own opinions.
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