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Published Monday, November 30, 2009 in Local

Seabaugh proposes to limit city use of radar

By Sarah Fay Campbell

The Newnan Times-Herald

State Sen. Mitch Seabaugh has "pre-filed" four bills in anticipation of the Georgia General Assembly session that begins Jan. 11.

One bill, increasing oversight and regulation of the Georgia Lottery Corporation, was discussed in Friday's issue of The Times-Herald. Here, Seabaugh discusses three other bills.

Senate Bill 295 would prevent municipalities from running radar on interstate highways. SB 294 would eliminate the yearly $25 charge for vanity license plates, and Senate Resolution 793 is a constitutional amendment that would add the language of the 10th amendment of the U.S. Constitution to the Georgia Constitution.

Senate Bill 295

* Seabaugh said he has had several constituents "contact me about certain cities that have seven or eight patrol cars sitting on the interstate running radar," Seabaugh said. "They question whether that is... the best utilization of the resources of law enforcement officers in that particular city," Seabaugh said.

He feels that some police departments use interstate-based speeding tickets as a revenue source.

"I believe that is wrong," he said. "There are a lot of cities that will annex in an interstate just so they can sit there and run radar," he said.

Seabaugh said he wants to very clearly state that he is "in no way saying I am not for law enforcement. I believe we ought to have adequate law enforcement."

Sheriff's deputies and Georgia State Patrol troopers are the proper agencies to be conducting speed enforcement on the interstate, Seabaugh said.

"It's very obvious to me, when we have situations were cities are putting seven or eight patrol cars on the interstate -- they are not about trying to protect their citizens," Seabaugh said. "They're about trying to raise revenue.

"That, to me, is an abuse of the power that they have been granted."

Senate Bill 294

* Seabaugh said he had someone ask him why people with vanity license plates have to pay an additional $25 each year to renew their tag.

"I thought it was a very good question," Seabaugh said.

Many specialty car tags, such as those for wildflowers, wild life, spay and neuter, and breast cancer, cost $25 each year because that money is going to benefit the particular cause.

When someone gets a vanity plate, that money is just going to state coffers. The $25 charge the first year goes to cover the cost of manufacturing the license plate.

"The intent was to cover the government's costs of generating the tag. But why should the government be making money beyond that when they are not incurring the cost, at the expense of the taxpayer?" Seabaugh asked.

Senate Resolution 793

* SR 793 proposes a constitutional amendment to limit the powers of the state and local governments.

The 10th amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The Georgia version would say that "all powers not delegated to the state or local governments by this Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the state or local governments, are reserved to the people of this state."

This resolution also grew out of a discussion with a constituent.

Seabaugh said someone approached him and asked why Georgia's Constitution "does not recognize and reserve power to the people?"

Seabaugh said he asked the man what good such an amendment would do.

The answer was that it would give a Georgian legal standing if someone felt the state, or a local government, had overreached its legal boundaries.

As a constitutional amendment, the resolution will require a 2/3 majority in the Senate and the House. It would then be put on the ballot for the 2010 election. If passed by a simple majority, the language would be added to the state constitution.

"This could be a very intriguing debate in the Georgia State Senate this coming year," Seabaugh said. "Because it is a pure expression that, basically, the people are the boss," he said.

"Whenever the state government tries to start exercising powers in areas where they really haven't been granted that power, this will empower to people to put a check on that abuse of power," Seabaugh said.

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Radar

12/14/2009

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Is this guy for real? If you rely on the state patrol to just work the interstate 70 will be the minimum. More accidents is what the good senator wants I guess.

Posted by sh at 2:45 PM

Get Real

12/14/2009

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You you mean to tell me I get to speed on the highways and not get pulled over? Less officers on the highway equals more accidents and deaths.GSP does not have enough man power for anything.Lets protect the speeders and not the police....SENATOR GET REAL

Posted by NMAS at 11:10 AM

What?

12/14/2009

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WTH? So, let me get this straight. The good Senator doesn't like the way "some departments" enforce traffic laws in THEIR jurisdiction, so he's going to waste taxpayer money to pass a law insuring that they don't? And that makes sense to anyone??? Less traffic enforcement = more traffic fatalities...but I guess we'll find that out the hard way if Sen. Seabaugh has his way.

Posted by Seriously at 2:18 AM

Troopers

12/4/2009

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The bottom line is the GSP needs to be the gold standard among Georgia law enforcement and at the present ,it is not. I do not hear police officers speaking of working toward that goal. we need to support Senator Seabaugh on this bill because these guys protect us.

Posted by Concerned Citizen at 9:49 PM

GSP

12/4/2009

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GSP are the most loyal officers we have. There is no need to get rid of them. It is one of the few agencies I don't mind funding. They abide by the law and they enforce it WITH common sense; something you rarely see with city cops. Leave the HWY to the GSP and make these highschool rejects (not all but you are grouped together when you know it and look the other way) do something productive.

Posted by DB at 7:38 PM

Trooper raise

12/3/2009

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The Georgia State Troopers are some of the lowest paid police officers in the state of Georgia. A great deal of talent goes to the other jurisdictions, is that fair to the public?

Posted by Concerned Citizen at 8:24 PM

State troopers need a raise?

12/3/2009

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I finding shocking that teachers can't get a raise but the state can give troopers a raise? But I will admit that troopers do get paid very little money.But they do get take car homes still right?

Posted by ???? at 3:55 PM

interstate and radar

12/2/2009

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I have heard that Senator Seabaugh is pushing a bill to raise the salary of State Troopers and hire more of them to protect us on the interstate system of Georgia...so YES!..he has my vote.

Posted by Concerned Citizen at 9:07 PM

Radar and Citys

12/2/2009

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People,
Let the City look after it's people and protect them. Let the State and County deal with the interstate. You will be safer at home with this bill.

Posted by Not a Good Ole'boy at 12:33 PM

RADAR

12/2/2009

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People who drive the posted speed limit or less, need not worry about radar or police. The more radar and police the better I say.

Posted by Jerry at 2:42 AM

Speeding and Dollars

12/1/2009

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It’s about time one of our political leaders admitted the major reason for speeding tickets is to create revenue. If they really cared about safety, they’d make an effort to limit accidents at stoplights. Revenue could be created by enforcing noise limits on Harleys, Sport Bikes and Rice Burner cars.

Posted by Cal at 1:46 PM

Georgia Interstates are one long construction zone

12/1/2009

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I got a speeding ticket in Tifton doing 70 in a 50 mile an hour construction zone. $500! Yes, I was breaking the law. I had been doing 50 mph for 50 miles and had not seen ONE road worker. It is time someone addressed these fake construction zones! Talk about a scam.

Posted by Amused at 1:38 PM

radar

12/1/2009

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Georgia already has the strictest radar laws in the nation, that is why its so crazy driving on our interstate. our law makers must have a need for speed. if this all they worry about is getting to the capitol on time with out being hampered by the local police then get rid of them. we all know that a trooper is not going to give a senator a ticket.

Posted by joan at 11:19 AM

grantville

12/1/2009

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there just isn't as much crime in grantville compared to newnan. which one would think would require fewer police officers, but if they are shooting radar i guess not.

Posted by richard at 5:41 AM

Get Real

12/1/2009

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Mitch, you work for us. We pay your salary and as far as I see it, we are not getting much for our money. Get real and come up with something of substance, not media blitz.

Posted by Your boss at 1:41 AM

streamline police?

11/30/2009

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First of all if a city has the resources to run radar and patrol i do not see a problem, second if they dont then they should stay off of the interstate ....and this is coming from a city cop..go figure....also, in order to have a sheriif's office your county seat must have a police dept. and vice versa....cant get rid of police that easy

Posted by j at 11:40 PM

Police on interstates

11/30/2009

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So who is going to replace these officers patroling our dangerous interstates, surely not the GSP because we all know of their shortage. Why can't we elect smarter senators? Is this all they have to worry about or maybe the law makers are some of those crazy drivers we encounter on the interstate.

Posted by John at 10:59 PM

police on interstate

11/30/2009

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Mr. Sebaugh must be referring to Union City and Dekalb County,and Decatur. At times Union City has been known to have four cars at a time stopped on interstate. Now can we get Palmetto to stop patroling Flash Food and Gas.

Posted by disgusted at 10:53 PM

city kittys

11/30/2009

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I drive to Valdosta Ga 5 days out of the week. You will see city cars in the same towns many times a week on 75. They are Ashburn, Cordele, Byron,Forsyeth, and Tifton Ga.

Posted by JJ at 7:31 PM

Spoke with Mitch today

11/30/2009

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I personally spoke with Senator Seabaugh today and he was NOT referring to the City of Grantville. He was not even referring to a city in his district area. Thanks for clearing that up Mitch!

Posted by Informed at 7:25 PM

To concerned

11/30/2009

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Nope I haven't gotten a ticket in my life. Matter of fact I generally travel at 5 mph below the speed limit and have a great driving record. I just know for a fact that Grantville uses the interstate to make money plain and simple. Ever heard of how many drug seizures get made in Grantville every year? Shocking indeed.

Posted by Think about it at 6:41 PM

I agree with him

11/30/2009

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Maybe in Grantville's case the officers time could be better spent busting drug houses of theft cases instead of sitting on the interstate "protecting" people.

Posted by whh at 6:09 PM

Reduce the # of Law Agencies

11/30/2009

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Honestly, he needs to strip downt the number of law enforcement agencies in GA. There to too much overlap now. Some counties have Police departments on top of the Sheriff office and add to that GBI, local city police, and State Patrol. We are overrun with agencies overlapping with each other.
Its time to strip GA down to County Sheriffs, GBI and thats it. No more local county police forces or city police and the GSP funding show go to local counties for beefing up their local Sheriff Department.
STREAMLINE is the word. Not less law enforcement but smarter and less buearactic overlapping waste.

Posted by Jock at 4:52 PM

SB 295

11/30/2009

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I agree that municipalities should not be using traffic citations as revenue raising sources. But I’m unconvinced that this bill is in the best interests of traveling safety. Perhaps there is a better way to limit these “radar traps”. Mandating a minimum distance between radar cars, say 5 miles apart on the same side of the road, could reign in municipalities.

Posted by Safe Driver at 3:41 PM

Mitch has lost it

11/30/2009

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First of all, This radar issue is probably not about Coweta, Newnan or Grantville. In the last two years, our interstate has been way to dangerous to run radar on. Secondly, State law already restricts how many tickets can be written by a municipality. It goes by $$$. Only 10% of your revenue can be from radar. Why doesn't Mitch worry about the economy, or healthcare or our troops? Maybe it's because he can't actually get anything else done. Maybe we just need to find out who and when he got his last speeding ticket... I bet it was pretty recently. Same thing happened when a senator got pulled over in Clayton County, we had to put roof mounted lights on all cars so they could see us.

Posted by get a life at 3:11 PM

To Must Be Talking about Grantville

11/30/2009

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Can't slam an officer for doing their job! You must be one that rec'd a ticket for BREAKING THE LAW! If you break the law... you WILL be ticketed. Plain and simple! No excuses.

Posted by Concerned at 3:00 PM

Must be taking about Grantville

11/30/2009

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Want it to be known that the city of Newnan rarely sends its officers up on the interstate unless its to catch a drunk driver or bad accident.But Grantville is bad about sitting on the ramps and writing tickets.

Posted by Think about it at 2:15 PM

Mitch got it right!!!

11/30/2009

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City police need to worry about what goes on in the city and let the state police worry about what happens on the interstates. I agree 100% and Mitch you get my vote next election!!!!

Posted by Sharpsburg Resident at 1:19 PM

Uhhhhhh

11/30/2009

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These issues seem a bit petty considering the state of things. The answer to everything in the general assembly is to make more laws. Everyone knows vanity plates are a lame way to express yourself.

Posted by John at 12:25 PM

It this really important?

11/30/2009

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Seabaugh, why can't you focus on things that really matter. This is just another example of the many grandstand tactics Seabaugh uses to get free publicity. I agree, let's vote in a new senator.

Posted by Joe Citizen at 12:19 PM

Proposed bill 295 and misc.

11/30/2009

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Let's get this straight...I just spoke with the police chief of my town, that runs radar on the interstate, and he said that our agency mainly writes citations for 20 over the speed limit. These officers are getting excessive speeders off the road that are a detriment to the other drivers on the road and you want to get them off the interstate and away from protecting people on the roadways? What a backward way of thinking. Good luck with your bill. It will NEVER pass and once the other agencies that run radar on the interstate hear about this your tag will a BOLO for ALL of them. ha ha

Posted by Concerned at 12:14 PM

mitch

11/30/2009

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If the cars on the interstate are speeding,Who cares who writes the ticket.Either the senator thinks the speed limit is to low are maybe only the county and state should benefit.But thanks for deciding who to vote for on the next election, It will not be you.

Posted by rick at 11:28 AM

Errrrr Mitch, Georgia is burning

11/30/2009

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Georgia is burning in red ink and Mitch is worrying about vanity license plates. Making a difference in the lives of all Georgian's.

Posted by Larry Wade at 10:35 AM

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