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Published Sunday, September 05, 2010 in Local
Reaction mixed to Ashley Park crackdown
The Newnan Times-Herald
There's a growing intolerance nationwide for teenage shenanigans, especially in shopping centers that have become teen hangouts -- and Newnan's own Ashley Park is no exception.
Many of these venues are implementing proactive policies aimed at discouraging or preventing young people from congregating.
The crackdown on teenagers, though, is being met with mixed reviews from teens and parents, says Ashley Park Facilities Manager Lee Batups.
In recent years, malls have been adopting policies that require teens to be accompanied by adults after certain hours, according to the Aug. 11 "Christian Science Monitor." The move is an attempt to curtail rowdy behavior and loitering that many establishments say has become bad for business.
"Ashley Park is a community-based shopping center," said Batups. "It's a place for people to come and enjoy the park as well as shop. We want our customers to have quiet enjoyment. We don't want to run off anyone, but we also want to make sure everyone is safe."
Recently, Ashley Park has had problems with teenagers and vandalism and overall disrespectful behavior. Batups said center employees have broken up some fights, the fountains have been soaped, and they've had garden pots kicked over and damaged. They've also watched teenagers drive recklessly in the retail center, and they've caught teenagers having sex after hours in their vehicles.
The last thing a patron reading outside Barnes & Noble wants to experience is a pack of unruly teenagers hanging out "cussing, smoking and making them unhappy," he said.
"We're trying to curb some of the bad behavior," said Batups.
That said, Batups stresses that Ashley Park officials are trying to walk a fine line and not run off teenagers just because they're there.
"We want people to come out and enjoy the park, and you don't have to be shopping," said Batups. "At the same time, there are customers who are out here shopping and doing the things they need to do. A lot of parents just drop their kids off."
The security officers at Ashley Park are not babysitters, he said.
Off-duty Newnan Police officers work the retail center on Friday and Saturday nights. Security also monitors the shopping venue. When the shopping center closes, security keeps youngsters closer to the theater.
"From a liability stance, if something happens to them, their parents could sue us," said Batups, adding that by the theater they're at least in a lighted, well-supervised area.
Some parents, according to Batups, like that the center is "keeping an eye out." However, some parents are complaining that children aren't going to Ashley Park to get in trouble, yet they're treated like part of the problem -- and that leaves them with nowhere to go to be teenagers.
"Children finally have a place to go that's outside, and then they're run off," said Tammy Daugherty. "They have as much right to be there as anyone else does. I don't think it's fair."
"We're trying to balance this respectfully for everybody," said Batups. "It is a shopping center, not a place to hang out. Our tenants pay rent. Our first responsibility is to our tenants and then to the customers. We're trying to make everybody happy, but we can't do it. It's just not possible."
Still, Batups is quick to acknowledge that not all teenagers are problematic and that most are potential shoppers that pack a lot of spending power.
Teens spent $169 billion in 2004, and 78 percent of teens reported shopping in a mall in the past 30 days, according to marketing research published in "Christian Science Monitor."
Coweta Juvenile Court Chief Intake Officer Terry Calhoun reported that, since January, there have been approximately 50 shoplifting complaints from the shopping center. In some of these cases, the teenagers involved were with their parents at the time. Calhoun said that, compared to other shopping centers similar to Ashley Park, 50 incidents is light.
Calhoun is outspoken about his belief that a lack of supervision is often to blame in cases where youth slip into criminal activity.
"When you give a child too much free rein, you are really asking for trouble," said Calhoun.
However, Calhoun said he frequents Ashley Park with his family and has never encountered a situation involving a teenager being a nuisance.
"There seems to be a handful that create a problem for the rest," he said. "We have some great young people in our county. If they are pushed out of the public's eye, where will they be?"
Marissa Clark, Mollie Moviedo and Rachel Williams are all ninth-graders at East Coweta High School. The girls frequent the shopping center with friends. They've each been approached by security in the evening hours and told to return to the movie theater or leave.
Clark said she thinks it's fair for Ashley Park to be proactive if they've implemented the rules as result of past problems.
Williams agreed with Clark, saying that if stores are closed, she understands they have no need to be hanging out in the shopping center.
Moviedo said she visits Ashley Park with friends just about every weekend because "it's just a fun place to hang out." She particularly enjoys that there is a variety of stores -- and a candy shop.
But one incident with whom she termed a "rude" security guard left a bad taste in her mouth.
"We were sitting on a bench by DSW and he asked us to get up and go," said Moviedo. "We had just sat down. He got an attitude and started yelling."
Moviedo said she doesn't think it's fair that teenagers can't be at Ashley Park past a certain time.
"Most of us are mature enough," she said. "If people are causing problems and acting out, then they should be kicked out."
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not all kids are trouble give the kids abreak you want then to buy at the store
Posted by frank at 12:18 AM
The problem is the parents don't want them at their house either and they don't care and make excuses. I didn't have a place to "hang out" as a teen. We didn't have movie theaters, malls, nor skating. Off and on as a younger child. What I would have appreciated for the ability to go bowling or to a theater. The parents are the first problem. Go with the teens, see what is going on. We need a family unit again, not relying on the "village" to raise the children. I don't go and it is the parks loss. I won't put up with it. A 17 or 18 old enough to run their mouth and hurt my property is old enough to take the punishment. Parents don't make excuses. It is your fault! Take away the keys and if you drop off your child, you are the responsible one or the irresponsible one to be more truthful.
Posted by Worried at 6:27 PM
Well in all respect some parents don't really know what their kids do at AP and would be ever so shocked if they learned the truth...They are not the angels you think they are...And yes tehre has been a curfew in coweta county for a long time but it's not enforced...The benches and furniture are there for sitting on but not for teens to amke out on...I for one would not ever let my teens go out there with out me or someone I know and trust very much...There is way too much going on out there with the trouble makers...Parents get a grip on your kids and give them some PROPER up bringing...
Posted by concorned person at 2:37 AM
Are you serious??? Are there actually parents out there condoning this kind of behavior?? I have a small child who likes to go to fuzzwigs or claires on Friday evenings as her treat for being GOOD at school all week and for me to have to worry about her safety or what she will see is RIDICULOUS!! I think it is fine for teenagers to hang out at AP, but for the ones who obviously have no parents (or at least parents who don't care)... they need to go and allow the families of coweta to enjoy themselves. Also, I really hope that security is not asking people to leave just because they are sitting on benches?? What are the benches there for if not for sitting?
Posted by frustrated at 1:24 AM
All I am going to say is that whenever I have a hankering to have a baby I go to AP on a weekend night! Best birth control ever!
Posted by karma at 7:45 PM
To these people on here about the teens.......were any of you teens at one time and acted unruly to adults? I know for one I am an adult and I acted out as well. At 16-17 years old...I don't think these teens need a babysitter!! If there is a curfew in force, make sure it goes for all. You go to fining people and you will run off business! 12-13 year old kids should be left alone all day at A.P. in no way, shape or form! I have noticed myself as a parent of a teenager that is NOT unruly, nor disrespectful....alot of CLAYTON COUNTY is headed this way!I for one have seen some of the clientele and it is not the kind I want around my child!!! Stop griping about seeing teenagers ouit and about that are not doing anything wrong! I spend a tremendous amount of money in this county!!
Posted by Teens at 7:31 PM
Its not a right for a teenager to have a place to hang out, its a privilege!! Why should it be AP responsibility to watch your kids? The kids don't contribute to society, unless they are of working age, so why did they need to be out passed a certain time?
Posted by NR at 7:16 PM
The other night, we had just pulled into a parking spot at Ashley Park - ten SCREAMING teens ran into Ulta Beauty, screaming the whole time. Shortly after that, they had run out (after spraying themselves with 'who-knows-what-perfumes'), stinking to high heavens as they ran to their next favorite store 'for some more high-quality shopping.'
No, dear parents, your teens don't belong in a pack, yelling and screaming...this is not shopping, it is being a nuisance. Keep the Security Guards in place and enforce the curfew.
Posted by A parent at 2:49 PM
If you really want to see something unbelievable. Go take a look at the the theater on Friday and Saturday night. That is a bigger turn off than the teenagers at Ashley Park. Where are these kids from and why are a lot of them walking around with backpacks? That's the place that needs security !
Posted by anyone at 12:11 PM
I've been to AP several times and witnessed disrespectful teenagers acting rudely. It's a sign of the times. Please keep up the good work AP security. We stopped going there in the evening to avoid all of this as it is becoming a huge problem there. I say start fining them. Maybe we can come up with a unruly,disrespectful tax just for teenagers.
Posted by moreland at 5:36 AM
This is ridiculous, I can not believe that people are actually acting like this. Would you rather your kids be roaming the streets, drinking, and partying. Let the teens have one safe place they can hang out. To the person who commented about A.P. turning into southlake mall. One thing that is a inside mall. Second it is in clayton county not coweta. Coweta County is nothing like Clayton County. Obviosuly you have issues if you think Coweta county is anything like Clayton County
Posted by Whatever at 5:04 AM
When you read the comments of some of the parents of the teenagers who claim to have been treated rudely, you understand why their children's behavior needed to be addressed by the security at AP. I see this same disrespectful, anti-social behavior everyday at the high school where I work. 90% of the high school students are great kids, but like everything else, 10% of them ruin it for everyone. Looks like the 10% rule applies to the rude teenagers at AP. I have seen teenagers hanging around AP who walk around in packs and display loud, threatening, attention seeking behavior. Parents, you made the decision to have a child, you should accept the responsibility to teach your children respect for people and property.
Posted by high school employee at 12:50 AM
People are driving through AP like it is a race track. Where are the parents! Your child can be snatched from Ashley Park just as easy as the teenager who is still missing in Aruba!!THE POLICE DOESN'T GET PAID ENOUGH MONEY TO BE A BABY SITTING SERVICE AT THE MALL.You brought these children into the world and it is your responsibility to keep them safe!!
Posted by GloriaShellnutt at 9:53 PM
I agree that the security guards are not babysitters.I think the show of force is very good for Ashley Park. I was trying to cross the road in front of Dillards recently and a car came speeding through the circle and almost hit myself and my grandbaby in the stroller. I moved from the Southlake mall area in 2001 because it had turned into a hangout for teens. No parent should drop their teens off at sny shopping site . They are asking for trouble. Too many teens disappear for that very reason!!!!
Posted by Gloria at 8:31 PM
Shop owners will tell the stories - about 12-year-olds and 13-year-olds, 'dropped off' at Ashley Park, ten a.m. on Saturday morning, with NO MONEY, and they will be picked up at seven p.m.
I can't imagine that, but it's true - so many middle school students are getting into way too much trouble, just hanging out at Ashley Park.
And sadly, 'the older' teenagers are taking advantage of the younger teens - parents, do you even 'know' what your young teens are up to? I doubt it.
Posted by For a curfew at Ashley Park at 8:30 PM
we used to have a skating rink and a skate park. Both closed. Im not even talking about Ashley Park. Im talking about trying to get in the businesses around that area. I had to wait at BK while kids moved out of the way to park. Then i came back out to find about 20 teenagers standing around on the sidewalk and 3 or 4 leaning or half sitting on my car. They weren`t eating at BK so why hang out in the parking lot? I have considerably more to spend than most of the teenagers hanging out there, but Ashley Park will never see any of it.
Posted by Dave at 6:14 PM
We are frequent visitors to Ashley Park and we think the Security Guards do a fantastic job - they are out & about, friendly and they are making Ashley Park a nice, safe environment for shopping and dining.
Unruly teens need to go elsewhere!
Posted by Coweta resident at 3:09 PM
MY TEEN IS NOT UNRULY! He is very well behaved and respectful. Him and his friends do not go around getting in trouble. They spend a lot of time in my home and they have a lot of respect. These teens work to earn money to spend at AP, but when they go there they are treated rudely.
Posted by bo at 2:51 PM
I believe that the "parents" of those who are causing issues should be held accountable for their childrens actions. oweta County needs to adopt a law that these parents are to be charged with the same crimes that their children commit. Maybe then they will care what their children do and where they are and not just drop them off for someone else to deal with them.
Posted by Omega-Prime at 1:54 PM
Well done to the Security at Ashley Park. I think its fantastic that they are working so hard at keeping all of us safe and to make Ashley Park a pleasant place to go. A few bad apples can ruin the whole barrel so lets be sure we pluch them out of the barrel as quickly as we can.
Posted by Public Misconduct at 12:41 PM
there is a curfew for the city of newnan. it is not enforced. however if it was we would no0t be sitting here discussing this issue. And as far as the benches i have never seen security kick any adults off. Some Parents need to learn that some of there kids are not the perfect angels they think they are. I think security does an excellent job with the resources that they are given.
Posted by concorned person at 11:56 AM
bo, buh bye... Dont let the door slap you or your unruly kid in da behind! More parking and peace for me. I will spend twice to make up for your portion.
Posted by JOD at 3:01 AM
Isn't it amazing how some parents don't want to get involved with the raising of their teens?
The 10 per cent of troublemaking teens will be ruining Ashley Park - for everyone. Those same troublemaking teens (again, a minority) are the same ones who ruin the learning process in school.
As long as their parents take a 'hands-off' approach, nothing will ever change. A curfew needs to be enforced.
Posted by Curfew needed for A-P at 9:40 PM
Thank you!Someone else other than me has some common sense!
Stores are not there for hoodlums to hang out but sell mechandise.
Posted by George at 7:26 PM
Just because there is an American Eagle store and an Ice Cream Store, and a candy store, etc, does not mean that Kids aren't welcome and those businesses being there is not an invitation for you kids to act like fools when you are there. I also doubt that only teens can keep those businesses open with their purchases.
Posted by Concerned Citizen at 6:15 PM
My next door neighbor has a yard full of kids every day = not Teenagers yet, but cussing swearing pushing shoving knocking eachother down, and screaming yelling for hours. I can't Imagine what it would be like if they were all dropped off at AP = no one would go near the place! = Don't put up with the bad behavior dig in and fight it.
Posted by Kirk Wilson at 3:12 PM
If they don't want kids "hanging around" why not just shut down Coldstone and Gamestop and Fuzziwigs and Aero and American Eagle. It's not like their target market is teenagers, oh wait . . .
Posted by Chad at 1:20 PM
since it seems to be such a problem to some. And neither will I. We will go elsewhere and shop. By the way, when I'm in AP, I find it's the Adults that are rude, not the teens.
Posted by bo at 12:24 PM
Lets see we have a grown man below (George) thretening teens....NICE! How about everyone mind their own. Go to AP and shop. If you have a problem call the police or leave. It is just that simple. I love shoes and NO un-ruly teen is going to get in my way! Point: EVERYONE lighten up! I have seen far ruder ADULTS!!!!
Posted by Concerned Mom at 9:42 AM
Yo , what is the point of having a shopping center if you can't even hang out? I am 15 and i was happy that we got Ashely Park so we could finally just chill. I understand the misbehaving and stuff but security has been very rude and disresptful as well. i have been threaten to get kicked out for no apperant reason.
So be honest , where and what is the point of having a shopping center if you cant even just plainly walk around?
Posted by Yanet at 12:18 AM
Why can't the teens hang out at home with their friends? When I was growing up we would maybe go out to eat or watch a movie. If we just wanted to hang out we went to a friends house. It is the job of the parent to provide a place for teens to hang out and stay out of trouble. I see nothing wrong with teens going to AP if they have a reason to be there and are well behaved. AP is not a daycare for your teens....it is NOT a place to hang out and chat with friends. It is a place to shop, dine and watch a movie....if teens aren't doing one of the above they shouldn't be there.
Posted by Andrea at 11:55 PM
We went to AP after hours and it was typical teen giggling and screaming. Most moved out of the way and were not rude. They were just being kids. I saw many security guards there! Now, if I would have seen anything beyond typical behavior I would have called the cops, especially if a group would have blocked my car. That is totally uncalled for.
Set a curfew and enforce it OR suffer losing the people who actually would like to do business there.
Posted by resident at 10:43 PM
It's clear, parents: IF teens were involved in the school band - they would not have time to hang-out at Ashley Park...
IF teens were involved in their church Youth Program - they would not have time to hang-out at A-Park...IF teens were volunteers at a local food bank, they would not have time to hang-out at A-Park...
Be a PARENT, step up to the plate and get involved!
We don't need your spoiled teens RUINING the peaceful atmosphere of Ashley Park.
Posted by Ashley Park NOT a hang-out at 9:06 PM
better do something with them before they get hurt reallll bad.Understand ? There is such a thing as protecting yourself.Get it ?
Posted by George at 8:04 PM
Charge youth under 18 years old a $15 cover charge after 7pm. What does it cover? It will cover the additional security needed to babysit them.
Posted by Alladin at 6:17 PM
When you see these teens are anyone elese causeing trouble are acting up. You should call the law . That would stop a lot of it .
Posted by william at 6:12 PM
I was on the Kids side of this issue = looks worse than I realized. Ashley Park is a very nice place and it would be great to keep it that way. Kick the rotten kids out .....and toss out the benches too since it is obvious no one can sit on them no matter who you are.....I guess I will get a hoveround = let's see security tell me to not sit in my own hoveround!
Posted by Kirk Wilson at 4:31 PM
Yes rules are needed,but our young kids also, need a spot or activity that they can enjoy. Their needs to be more activities for young kid. Maybe a skating area with games and little shops for kids.
Posted by Melissa Martin at 4:10 PM
Why not open up Starship so the kids have a cool place to hangout?
Posted by King at 2:10 PM
Why don't you take them to church? There's plenty going on at area churches for teens. Or let them cut the grass, paint the fence, or babysit. They do NOT need free time hanging around unsupervised. I remember what we did when I was a teen. Trust me, you better watch them.
Posted by local yokel at 2:07 PM
Ashley Park, Teens, Parents, Patrons, Security...Listen up! If you have taken the time to read all the comments over the wkend, you can see the OVERWHELMING majority of folks want the smoking, cursing, rude, antagonistic, disrespectful behavior to NOT BE TOLERATED. The area stands to lose a really nice shopping area if the thugs are not kicked out and KEPT OUT. One experience like many of those listed below is enough for ANY patron to never return. SECURITY NEEDS TO TOSS THEM OUT AND KEEP THEM OUT! If the parents won't do their job, they need to keep their mouths shut when Security is forced to do it for them!
Posted by I think not at 12:58 PM
1. Boo hoo hoo, our kids have no place to go.
2. An establishment arrives that provides families and teens a place to go.
3. Irresponsible teens and irresponsible defensive parents result in a deterioration of the establishment.
4. Establishment becomes unattractive and possibly closes.
5. Boo hoo hoo, our kids have no place to go.
Posted by Mike at 12:20 PM
My wife and I go to Ashley Park. We spend money there. We don't want to run into "nothing else to do" teens. Start patroling the place or my money walks.
Posted by A. Spender at 11:24 AM
We enjoy Ashley Park - but it has been overtaken by unruly teens.
It is sad to see such a beautiful place, all the nice landscaping, the nice shops and restaurants - taken over by packs of teens.
I'm a parent of teens and they shop at Ashley Park with adults. I know most parents would not BELIEVE the rude acts that are prevalent - and how would most parents even know?
They drop their kids off, expecting Ashley Park to do the babysitting.
The security guards do a wonderful job of trying to curb the bad behavior - the kids have even started an anti-security guard facebook page!
Just ask the security guards: these young kids are experimenting with sex, drugs, etc, while the 'out of touch' parents think their darling children are going to the movies. 'Clueless' parents!
Posted by A resident at 11:16 AM
You might want to rethink your threat. The City police handle calls out there not the coutny.
Posted by !!!!! at 10:25 AM
I was in Barnes and Noble not to long ago when a teenager threw a book at another and nearly hit a lady holding her baby.
Posted by Joe Cool at 7:00 AM
Just one more simple thought: With every freedom goes a responsibility. Translated in Ashley Park terms: Everyone is free to go to Ashley Park if they behave responsibility...no matter what age.
Posted by Granny at 2:18 AM
I too have been on both ends of the situation at Ashley Park and everyone is right this is not a place for parents to drop their teenagers off to be babysat.I mean if they had the security team they had about a year and a half or so ago then there wouldn't be these issues now.Atleast then things didn't get wrote up like they do now.Parents wake up and discipline your kids.They screw up every place they get to hang out but if you as their parents would blister their butts of put your foot up it maybe they wouldn't be so disrespectful.
Posted by concorned person at 1:17 AM
There seems to be a common thread running through all the posts; accountability of teens/parents/security. Teens need to not only be accountable for their actions but need to realize that their friends' behavior -- rightly or wrongly-- reflects on them. Parents ??? Well, that horse has been whipped to death. That brings us to security. Is their one particular security person causing all the dissensions? If so, he/she needs to be reported to the main office. Common sense should prevail. Does Ashley Park have security cameras in place? If so, they need to be monitored more effectively to weed out the few miscreants causing the problems--adult as well as youngsters. I too was asked to leave a bench while I was waiting for my wife to bring something from Cold Stone Creamery. When I told the security person that I was waiting for a purchase to be delivered and then produced my cell phone which I told him I was going to use to call the Sheriff to report his harassment he then told me in effect to "have a nice day" and didn't mean anything by his "request". Yes, AP is private property; however, that needs to be tempered on all sides by common sense. Like basketball..."No harm--No foul".
Posted by coweta cur-mudgeon at 1:07 AM
Ashley park is privately owned. It doesn't have to allow teenagers to hang out there nor does any privately owned business. They have a right to ask anybody to leave if they are causing a problem. If a store owner requested removal then it can happen plain and simple.
Posted by !!!!! at 12:55 AM
Maybe we as a community should have parent volunteers to walk and ride around AP after 9pm. If kids are not causing trouble, leave the be, if they are caught causing trouble, call the parent and ship them home. But I know that these kids can't talk and hangout at school and most of them can't have multiple kids over to stay the night. So this is where they go to socialize, is this not a learning experience that they need to be a part of?
Posted by Michele at 8:13 PM
I hope everyone remembers that the kids causing problems at AP at night are the same ones who cause problems at school during the day. Yes, there are many, many good kids, bur the bad can outweigh the good when it comes to safety and responsibility. I have taught high school for 6 years, and this generation of teens get progressively worse and worse. Many of them have no concept of right and wrong. Those security guards are not babysitter, just as we teachers are not. I know at least 5 educators who are pursuing other degrees in order to get away from the kids parents are "raising" now days. Make a curfew, hold the parents accountable for unruly behavior, and start pressing charges for teens breaking laws.
Posted by Come On! at 2:45 PM
I am amazed at the adults who do not know what "private property means". It means they can set thier own rules and curfews.
Posted by Rory at 2:09 PM
Wow..."confused" is the correct name for you. You apparently don't know what "bad" behavior is.
It is extremely rude to stand in a parking space that is there people SHOPPING. That is very inconsiderate and shows a lack of proper parenting. For you to defend this tells a lot about you and your kids. They are probably part of the troublemakers.
Posted by MS - mother of 7 including 2 respectful teens at 12:22 PM
let keep a place in newnan that we can be proud of , teen's do hang out just let them go home to thier parent's or parent's go to where your kid's are and see what they are doing then you will see the problem yourself.
Posted by concern citizen at 11:49 AM
To Parent of 14 and 2, Ditto & Amen. Kids get bored (idle minds are the devils work shop). I would suggest to their parents their kids should get involved with community service work or church functions. When the kids find something positive to do in volunteer work it builds self esteem, respect for others and shows them how good they really have it. This builds better adults for the future.
Posted by Grandma of 4 teens at 10:04 AM
I concur with some of the postings. Children today are cut from a different piece of fabric. Often, parents place the blame on the public without considering that they failed at some point in raising their child properly. AP is a great place and will continue to be for those teens who can appreciate it. Yes, there should be a place in Newnan for teens to hang out however, they will distroy it somehow and the place will be ordered to close down. The problem starts at home. If your child is disrespectful to you as a parent, then they will disrespect other adults. Yes, we want eveyone to continue to shop at AP however, parent need to be mindful that AP is not a place to drop your kids off. They will eventually get hurt or encounter some type of trouble.
Posted by Charles at 9:49 AM
Bottom line!!!!.. to those parents getting mad because their kids got in trouble at Ashely Park. Wake Up!!!!! Kids will be kids. Guess what?? They got in trouble becuase they dont how to conduct themselves in a respectful mannor. Don't get mad at the messenger. If your kids is standing in an empty parking space and you don't think they ahve to move. Now we know where they get their attitude problem. Apple doesn't fall from the tree. It's always like this. Trying growing up for a change and take responsiblity for your lack of parenting skills. Ashley Park should arrest the parents as well. Nothing wrong with kids at Ashley Park. Just the ones with sorry attitudes.
Posted by Mom at 9:30 AM
I think you're right about being "Confused". You don't see a problem with a gang of teens blocking a parking space when this PREVENTS people from parking to SHOP which is what people come to Ashley Park to do?? If that had been me, I would've just given up and not even attempted to get out of my car with a bunch of thug teens giving me dirty looks. I would've done my shopping elsewhwere and Ashley Park would've lost sales. You don't see a problem with this? We should not have to BATTLE our way into the stores because of disrespectful kids acting hateful just because we want to PARK our CARS! How is that hard to understand??
Posted by JB at 4:47 AM
I grew up in Newnan before there was an Ashley Park - and there was literally NOWHERE to just hang out and "be a teenager". I turned out ok. It's a shame parents are so clueless about what their little angels are really up to while they're "hanging out". Those security guards ARE being expected to babysit and there is a HUGE liabliity for the property-owners any time/place there are minors unaccompanied by adults. What do these parents expect?
Posted by JB at 4:38 AM
Most teenagers are good kids but you have that few that have no respect. The teens need a place to gather so they are not running the streets and getting in trouble. I frequent Ashley Park often and in the evenings there have been occasions where I have encountered some with foul mouth and just being ugly. In a way the management needs tp protect itself against lawsuits but most importantly the parents need to talk to there teens and teach them respect and responsibility so they don't spoil it for everyone. My 2 teenage daughters go there on the weekend and they come home with story's and kids being ugly.
Posted by CCJ at 2:45 AM
If the teens don't go to AP to shop then what is there for them to do there but get into mischief? There was never any place for teens to hang out when I was growing up except each other’s houses and church youth groups. Other than that we were busy with school activities, after school jobs, and hobbies. I was afraid to tell my parents that I didn't have anything to do or was bored because they would quickly come up with something to do called a chore. Today's teens don't seem to know what to do with themselves.
Posted by Granny at 2:30 AM
I thought there was already a curfew in place for the county? Ashley park should do as Arbor place mall, which is lock it down after a certain time, and only allow teens in with adult supervision. It always seems that parents are just "dumping" their kids off, and letting them run loose. This is a private business area, and they can set the rules as they wish, as I hope they will.
Posted by Johnny 5 at 1:57 AM
I was waiting to pick up my kids at the movies. As I was sitting on a bench waiting for the movie to let out. A security officer came up and advised that I could not sit at the movies to wait on my kids. It is not only the kids that get ran off. They should deal with the problem kids. There are many good kids wanting to go to Ashley Park for a dinner and a movie. Once again, please deal with the problem kids and encourage the "GOOD" kids to come and spend their money.
Posted by Let the Good Kids enjoy at 1:22 AM
Parents, enjoy shopping with your kids, they won't be around forever. You birth them and then want to get rid of them as soon as possible and drop them off at as many places as possible. Many of you have done a questionable job of raising responsible individuals, you are no role model for them which explains their deviant behavior. Likely you don't even read this paper but the fact is that there are a lot of disrespectful thug-like teens roaming around. Of course, there are also a lot of smart, hard-working teens but they know enough to avoid any semblance of trouble. Sad that the bad apples ruined it for the good kids. Shopping center tenants have made a sizeable investment, they have every right to ensure the safety of those who are actually shopping and not causing trouble. Make parents financially responsible for their little demons' behavior and that will take care of that problem. Lots of video surveillance is in order.
Posted by concerned citizen at 12:34 AM
I would like to see more police presence at Ashley Park. I very rarely see them. Just a drive through every hour would be quite effective. Also, maybe the Newnan City Council could pass a curfew for children 15 and under. Parents need to take care of their children and NOT drop them off and come back hours later to get them. That is not safe for anyone involved.
Posted by Concerned at 12:04 AM
NWR you are part of the problem if "your" child wants to go "hang out" that is what he/she "will" do is the attitude that you have, then don't forget that Ashley Park is private property and when they are ask to leave and don't then you may be headed to get them at the police dept. Not all teens are causing problems but if you aren't there with them how do you know what they are doing ???
Posted by Concerned Citizen at 11:53 PM
This community has a major economic machine in this center. Make it good for everyone and sales (sales taxes collected) will help us all. Just control it.
Posted by Doug at 11:46 PM
The point of the story is not "all" teenagers. They are trying to make a point that there are teens causing issues. Almost everyone that has posted below has even proven this. I can't believe those saying "there is nothing" for teens to do. What about the bowling ally? What about the TWO movie theatres? We had neither of these here when I was a teen, yet we managed. I also agree that if you raise responsible childrend/teens then they won't be the issue. Yes, we as adults all know that a few bad apples ruing things. Come on people, this still happens to adults (think of your workplace), some people - regardless of age - will always take a mile. Stop defending those that are causing problems, praise those that aren't.
Posted by AP shopper at 11:31 PM
Im 19 and was simply sitting in a chair outside of dillards talkin on my phone when a "security" guard informed me to leave or the police would be called due to myself loitering
Posted by A little much at 11:31 PM
Wow! I'm listening to all of these complaints about the kids hanging out in Ashley Park and they are correct when it comes to being harassed. I guess the harassment finally touched the other side if you know what I mean. This type of harassment isn't new. It happened at the old movie theater and skating rink. Maybe that it has touched all sides something will be done bc I do agree the teens in this county definitely need more kid friendly places. Young people in this county don't have anything to do.
Posted by Ordinary Citizen at 11:23 PM
Then do like I do. Go on a weekday in the morning. Just as nice as can be and not a noisy person in sight. I have never seen a security guard either--did not know AP had them. Actually, never thought of it.
It's nice to be 54 years old. No drama.
Posted by Cheryl at 10:40 PM
We did have a skating rink. It closed because the teens got too out of control. We had a teen club at one time on bullsboro and that had to be closed. Private businesses weren't built to be free babysitting for lazy parents. Ashley park has every right to forbid teens. Douglasville mall did it and its actually nice to go there now. If more people would step up and call the police maybe the rude teens will get a clue and leave.
Posted by !!!!! at 9:34 PM
Anytime you get teenagers crowding together like they were doing at Ashley Park, it is an inviation for trouble. They are not yet smart enough to know when they have a good thing going and will screw it up somehow.
Posted by Danny at 8:03 PM
Maybe the teens could be corraled back to the old Kmart parking lot which used to be the teen hangout. Since there are fewer businesses and shoppers there, maybe there would be fewer complaints.
Posted by CDog at 7:36 PM
I agree with the others when they say that it's nothing for the kids to do. They closed the skating ring and the only place the teens have to do is to ashley park.I agree. Build a place for them to go.I am a caring parent of a teenager and don't need ashley Park to be a babysitter for my child, but if she/he want to go to ashley park to hang with friends thats just whant she/he go to do!!!!!
Posted by NWR at 7:05 PM
"Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile" is very true at Ashley Park. First, teens loiter and act loud and rowdy all in the name of "being teenagers". The next step is vandalism and shoplifting, since it is more of a thrill. Given free rein, what's next? Someone is going to get seriously hurt or a felony will be committed. Who do you suppose will receive the blame? Of course! the Ashley Park security guards who "allowed" it to get out of hand. Wake up, parents. Your teens are causing problems in public places. Stop making excuses, teenagers. You are always demanding to be treated as adults, OK, act like adults and there won't be articles written in the local paper pointing out your juvenile behavior.
Posted by Paula at 6:32 PM
I agree that kids do need a place to go and have some fun, but at the same time i also agree that it should start at home with rules and discipline. If they are raised with values and the understanding of right from wrong then they should be able to go shopping and not cause trouble. Breaking things and vandalism is the action of kids with no respect and are bored (its just something to do) in their eyes, and its our job as parents to make them realize its not right. No parent with a teen or older is going to walk around holding their hand until the age of 30, so you have to raise them right and get into their business and make it your job as a parent to know it and to make them know that there is consequences to their actions. As a parent i can say its one of the hardest jobs to do, but its a job that has to be done if you care about your child.
Posted by Parent of age 14 and 2 at 6:23 PM
I love to shop at Ashley park. But some kids/teens are unruly jerks that need to be stopped. I've seen kids trying to trip people on purpose. I have seen teens making out and its gross. I have seen kids spitting on cars and people passing by. From now on I'm just going to call the cops and be done with it. I'm not going to put I'm with it anymore. So remind your little angels the cops are watching now.
Posted by !!!!! at 5:59 PM
Security Cameras throughout the area would help. The Security officers and local police could identify the People who are creating the problem. Innocent people would be left alone. After the stores close blocking off the streets would help also.
Posted by gene at 5:25 PM
As a frequent shopper who enjoys going to Ashley Park, I don’t understand why shoppers have problems about teenagers shopping there. When I shop there, teenagers haven’t given me any troubles while hanging out in a safe environment and they contribute to our local economy with their purchases. Would you prefer that teenagers go to other cities and spend their money out of the Newnan or have them stay in Newnan and spend their hard working money so that they can better improve our local economy through their tax dollars?
Posted by Frequent Ashley Park Shopper at 5:06 PM
In my day, walking downtown to shop was what we all did. We buy a new 45 to play, as a girl I bought I new lipstick and we grabbed lunch in the drugstore and had a vanilla coke. Seldom where there violence with all the kids shopping on a Saturday. Why do kids have to be so horrible now I don't know. Perhaps there are a few good ones but so many kids are just trouble makers that steal, curse and are not pleasant to be around. Parents need to wake up and keep their teens in line and train them manners, social graces. So many unruly kids and not enough grown up parents.
Posted by Jennifer at 5:03 PM
Coweta needs a teen club or a place the kids can hang out at.This is not a teenager friendly county. They have nothing to do.As far as Ashley Park,Well the teenagers spend alot of their parents money and their money they work hard for.Everywhere you go there will always be trouble makers.
Posted by christina at 3:32 PM
As a retail manager and a parent of a responsible teen, I understand the frustration of both parties. It begins at home people! If you teach your children how to behave, bring them up with a strong values, respect for others and their property, we wouldn't be having this conversation! So let's get back to basics. Start with a firm foundation. Then dropping them off at the age of 15 or 16 to have time to spend with their friends may not turn into such a catastrophe! These young adults need some time to socialize without their parents. We as parents, need to be sure we are preparing them to be caring, responsible adults.
Posted by Responsible Teen's Parent at 3:27 PM
let me get this straight...Ashley Park is NOT for teenagers.....hmmm...let see there is a candy store, ice cream, hamburgers, American Eagle, Rue 21, Claires, toy store, Aeropostle,....yep those sure sound like ADULT stores to me!! There are bad apples everywhere,all should not get punished because of SOME! I wonder how many that are commenting actually HAVE teenagers?? Some just like to critique others parenting from the comfort of their keybooard. My kids will continue to go to A.P. and spend money with or with out me, it is their right. It is a shopping center for ALL!!!
Posted by Northgate Football Mom at 3:20 PM
I drop off my teenagers often at Ashley park and when I pick them up I find out they went SHOPPING!! Teenagers are not wild animals and are being unjustly persecuted on this comment section. Apparently you who are complaining have long forgotten how to be tolerant. Kick the trouble makers out but don't label all teenagers! You people have social issues!
Posted by CC Resident at 3:12 PM
The teenagers need somewhere to hang out. They are just that, teenagers. Newnan is so quiet, the only place to go would be Ashley Park. I say they should had built a MALL like it was PLANNED in the beginning and none of this would be happening. All the power is in the wrong hands.
Posted by Adult Teen Supporter at 3:06 PM
Where are the parents? I like Ashley Park but I've been witness to a pack of loud, rude, PROFANE teens who argued and tried to pick a physical fight with each other outside of Barnes and Noble. It took a complete stranger threatening to call the police to get them to break it up and stop. The saddest part: these were GIRLS! One actually commented that she knew not to fight because, after all, she was pregnant and smarter than that. I weep for the future! Ashley Park and all its stores need to work together with security and police to quell any disturbances caused by teens or anyone! Parents, do your jobs!
Posted by Shopper at 3:02 PM
How about banning smoking at AP? Then be draconian about enforcement. I can't sit outside of B & N anymore because of the clouds of smoke. If they can't smoke, they'll call their mom and get a ride to another mall.
Posted by Joe at 2:59 PM
Ashley Park was not built for tennagers to hang out, it is a nice outdoor shopping retreat. It is YOU the parent that is responseable for YOUR child not everyone else. The weekend for most people who WORK is the only time we have to enjoy, I for one do NOT want to listen and look at teens that are loud, nasty and uncaring, when I am shopping with my family.
Posted by business owner at 2:12 PM
Sadly, a few bad kids ruin it for the rest. I'm guessing, however, that the good kids aren't ratting out the others who are vandalizing etc... since that is bad form, so maybe they're getting their due.
Posted by Newninja at 2:09 PM
Don't worry, the problem will be solved in a year or so when the place boards up its doors and windows and become a vacant lot. Then we'll deal with other problems.
Posted by Joe at 1:38 PM
Failed to mention in earlier post that the incident I mentioned happened in broad daylight - middle of Sat. afternoon.
Posted by I think not at 1:03 PM
Teens 'hangin out' is an age old problem. Perhaps neighborhoods could begin programs for teens on weekends so they have a safe and fun place to go. Those beautiful clubhouses are hardly used I bet. Or would that involve too much parental involvement and create an eyesore for residents? Create a place for the teens and you won't have this issue.
Posted by Lisa at 12:52 PM
Beware about who you harress, you may get what you want.....trouble!Harressment :behaviour intended to disturb or upset. In the legal sense, it is behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing. You could get hurt.
Posted by George at 12:46 PM
I will probably be flamed for this but if parents would take responsibility for their kids, whether it is a tween or teenager, they would check on their actions and not be angry or upset about them not being allowed at Ashley Park past a certain time. There are other things for them to do at that time or just maybe a parent might get some quality kid time by taking them shopping or to the movies or even bowling a mile down the road. I say yay for curfew....see how it affects things then maybe revisit it and go from there in a year or so.
Posted by Raguy at 12:45 PM
I was at A.P. last night and saw several instances of teenaged people doing stupid things. . . if they hadn't been stupid things that were also dangerous to themselves and others, I would agree that they should be left alone, but piling 9 people into a compact car and screeching from place to place (on some kind of treasure hunt?) is not appropriate behavior.
It is a nice place to 'hang-out', as long as you are polite, mindful of others, and not acting like you don't have any sense or manners!
Posted by Jami at 12:39 PM
I think the security guards are doing awesome and should continue to run off the teens without parents that are "just sitting on benches". They're sitting there figuring out their next deviant behavior anyway, so kick them out!
Posted by Jenn at 12:39 PM
Last week went into Barnes and Noble with my husband. Once I purchased my books, I wanted to go outside and enjoy a little reading while my husband finished up at Dick's Sporting Goods. There were about 20 plus teenagers outside sitting on top of the tables and chairs, smoking and having a private party. I had just spent money at Ashley Park and could not enjoy the place. The kids need to go!!!
Posted by Unhappy shopper at 12:37 PM
I really love to walk around the park with my little ones, but I have to agree there have been some kids that are just "hanging out" and SOME of them are thug like. That's bad for Ashley park for sure. I use to go to Southlake mall years ago. Its new nickname is "gangsta mall". very unsafe. please dont let this happen here!
Posted by kim at 12:35 PM
It all comes back to parents being parents...Ashley Park is a business. Not an outdoor venue for teenagers to hang our.
Posted by 'bout time at 12:30 PM
To I think not: what makes you think you have the right to force people--any people--to move so you can park?. I am not condoning their reaction, but we refuse to allow theses kids to be anywhere.
Doesn't anyone have teens or remember what it was like to be a teenager? Lighten up. If the person is causing trouble, they should be removed by the police or security as the situation warrants. If they are behaving--even if they are standing in a parking space or sitting on a bench--leave them alone.
By the way, I am curious as to how many of the shopliftings were committed by adults? The article doesn't specify.
Peace,
A parent of 4 former teenagers
Posted by Confused at 12:28 PM
My teen has had the same problem as state above with the rude security guard. She was shopping with a friend, in the daytime and they sat on a bench to rest. They would told to get up and leave. They did just that, left Ashley Park and did their school shopping elsewhere. Too bad because the merchants lost out on a lot of money to be spent. I'm all for the crack down, just take care of the trouble makers and let the shoppers, shop.
Posted by JC at 12:28 PM
Sorry but the only ones that seem to have a problem with this are the teenagers and the parents that let them run wild. Parents-Stop expecting someone else to babysit YOUR children and then cry fowl. One bad apple DOES spoil the whole basket. Such is life.
Posted by HB at 12:27 PM
I saw a teen stand up on a older couples trunk of their car in front of DSW and jump off last weekend, luckily the security and police were there and caught him. Lucky for him it wasn't my car.
Posted by Concerned Citizen at 12:00 PM
If the kids are doing what the above says they are doing, then they should be arrested and prosecuted.
Posted by Bo at 11:28 AM
Last wkend finally found parking spot forcing group of 4 boys to vacate the spot. Glared at us, slouched off. Walked in Dillards a minute later, noticed same guys lounging on benches outside store - glaring at us. Nervous. On return to car, filthy hand drawn picture stuck on door handle. Guess should be thankful they didn't key it? Looked at surrounding cars, no one else blessed with "art". Run 'em off.
Posted by I think not at 11:03 AM
I recently visited Ashley Park at some of the later hours with my husband. We were very impressed with the security officer's attempts to keep everyone closer to the theatre. It makes sense that if that is all that is now open, that should be the only place where you are allowed to hang out.
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If these teens were actually shopping, there wouldn't be any complaints. They are congregating, swearing, hanging out, smoking - anything but SHOPPING.
Teens - go volunteer your time or get a job.
Posted by A parent at 4:44 AM